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I made some notes yesterday morning while listening to @LearnedHandsPod’s ep. 8.5: someone (didn’t write who, sorry) suggests Dorne’s primogeniture law is like a state law vs federal.
My morning brain went
: ok but nope, it’s like Alsace-Lorraine.
(But hot)
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My morning brain went
: ok but nope, it’s like Alsace-Lorraine.(But hot)
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Long story short, over the past 150 years Alsace-Lorraine was French then not then yes then not then yes. Which, for the metropolitan territory is entirely unique.
Critically, they were German when some of the quintessential, still used French laws were passed in 1901 and 1905
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Critically, they were German when some of the quintessential, still used French laws were passed in 1901 and 1905
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The 1901 Law on (not-for-profit) Associations is important in very many fields but especially for churches, as that is how all cults in the country are organised.
The 1905 Law on Laicity enacts the complete separation of Church and State, and that’s not a small thing.
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The 1905 Law on Laicity enacts the complete separation of Church and State, and that’s not a small thing.
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Namely in France, our taxes, paid to the State, cannot fund churches, any church of any cult and their employees. That’s what the association does, through typically the support of their faithful. Or however they do that. It’s just not France as a State that pays them.
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Well... except in Alsace-Lorraine. Where the laws of neither 1901 nor 1905 apply. They use the “German” law of 1908 on associations instead, and reverted to the pre-1901 France-Church situation: the Concordat.
Which... is incredibly differently from the rest of the country now
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Which... is incredibly differently from the rest of the country now
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So there are Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Jewish etc (I’m guessing on the etc.) priests, laymen etc. paid by what looks like French authority but on a regional level, making Alsace-Lorraine the only region not 100% submitted to Paris and its rule.
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In a country that’s as centralised as France is, that’s quite something.
I’m leaving out a lot but I’m going to not at all complain and casually mention they even have an extra holiday compared to the rest of us: Boxing Day.
[insert whining]
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I’m leaving out a lot but I’m going to not at all complain and casually mention they even have an extra holiday compared to the rest of us: Boxing Day.
[insert whining]
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A quick mention that the “Napoleonian Code” (Code of French Civil Laws), a compendium of existing laws of sort, is from 1804 when A-L was in France. So we all have the same legal basis.
And they had returned to France when we got our current Constitution in 1958.
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And they had returned to France when we got our current Constitution in 1958.
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In Westeros, we have Jaehaerys and Bart’s compendium of laws quite early on in the history of the (not a)7 Kingdoms.
Then we have the Dance of the Dragons that establishes jurisprudence for primogeniture *so long as the geniture is male*.
Dorne is not in the (not a)7 Kingdoms
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Then we have the Dance of the Dragons that establishes jurisprudence for primogeniture *so long as the geniture is male*.
Dorne is not in the (not a)7 Kingdoms
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You could say that on a different scale of time, Dorne is at times in the (not a)7 Kingdoms but mostly not until they marry the dragons and the 7 Kingdoms are 7 Kingdoms in name as well as fact.
A bit like Alsace-Lorraine and France.
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A bit like Alsace-Lorraine and France.
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All of this to say: I have always been 0% surprised Dorne do not recognise an otherwise critical law whose jurisprudence happened while they were not in the 7K, but otherwise use the same law compendium as the rest of the country to avoid chaos.
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Sadly, there’s not much in the way of spicy food local to Alsace-Lorraine that I know of, although it could be argued some of their cheeses may serve the same purpose against untrained outsiders.
That the other French are not. We are very, very trained.
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That the other French are not. We are very, very trained.
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I hope this made sense. I haven’t slept much lately and it shows, but I’m a Justiciar of the WBA so I had to show I’m qualified for the position (at least minimally!)
Ps: justiciar is one letter away from “justicier” which is what Zorro and Batman according to us. Best job ever!
Ps: justiciar is one letter away from “justicier” which is what Zorro and Batman according to us. Best job ever!
