π–™π–π–Žπ–“π–Œπ–˜ 𝖐𝖕𝖔𝖕 π–˜π–™π–†π–“π–˜ π–˜π–π–”π–šπ–‘π–‰ π–˜π–™π–”π–• π–‰π–”π–Žπ–“π–Œ; 𝖆 π–‘π–”π–“π–Œ π–†π–˜π–˜ π–™π–π–—π–Šπ–†π–‰ --------»»
π–˜π–Šπ–π–šπ–†π–‘π–Žπ–Ÿπ–Žπ–“π–Œ π–Žπ–‰π–”π–‘π–˜
-there are so many fans sexualizing idols even though most people already said to stop, it can make others uncomfortable, and it is wrong. it's fine to call them hot sometimes, but saying you want to have sex with them is not okay
π–˜π–Šπ–π–šπ–†π–‘π–Žπ–Ÿπ–Žπ–“π–Œ π–’π–Žπ–“π–”π–— π–Žπ–‰π–”π–‘π–˜
-they aren't adults, calling them "hot" or "sexy" is not okay, sometimes even for idols who are already adults. since it might make them uncomfortable. there are many idols who are minors, and it can make them feel unsafe.
π–™π–Šπ–‘π–‘π–Žπ–“π–Œ π–˜π–”π–’π–Šπ–”π–“π–Š 𝖓𝖔𝖙 𝖙𝖔 π–˜π–Šπ–π–šπ–†π–‘π–Žπ–Ÿπ–Š π–‹π–Šπ–’π–†π–‘π–Š π–Žπ–‰π–”π–‘π–˜, π–‡π–šπ–™ π–˜π–Šπ–π–Ÿπ–šπ–†π–‘π–Žπ–Ÿπ–Šπ–˜ π–’π–†π–‘π–Š π–Žπ–‰π–”π–‘π–˜
-i feel like this thread is all about not sexualizing idols and shit, but I hate seeing people saying "no, don't sexualize female idols" but+
they sexualize male idols. yes, many female idols gets sexualized, too, but it doesn't make male idols less human and different from female idols. they shouldn't get sexualized, too. this is something people should stop doing, learn how to respect everyone. male or female
π–‹π–”π–—π–ˆπ–Žπ–“π–Œ π–˜π–”π–’π–Šπ–”π–“π–Š 𝖙𝖔 π–‡π–Š 𝖆 𝖐𝖕𝖔𝖕 𝖋𝖆𝖓
-yes, kpop is a great genre and all. we still want more people to recognize kpop, but forcing them to like kpop is wrong. when you hate on their music taste, or other artists they like just because they aren't a fan is+
too much. that's why people still bully some kpop stans, since that is the stereotype with us. sure, you can tell them to check out kpop, but don't go where you would hate on another artist that isn't from the kpop industry just because the person likes that artist+
and because they aren't a fan of kpop
π–˜π–†π–žπ–Žπ–“π–Œ π–˜π–”π–’π–Šπ–”π–“π–Š π–Žπ–˜π–“'𝖙 𝖆 π–™π–—π–šπ–Š 𝖋𝖆𝖓 π–‡π–Šπ–ˆπ–†π–šπ–˜π–Š π–™π–π–Šπ–ž 𝖉𝖔𝖓'𝖙 π–π–“π–”π–œ 𝖆𝖑𝖑 𝖔𝖋 π–™π–π–Š π–˜π–”π–“π–Œπ–˜ 𝖔𝖋 π–™π–π–Š π–Œπ–—π–”π–šπ–•/𝖇𝖆𝖓𝖉/π–˜π–”π–‘π–”π–Žπ–˜π–™ π–Šπ–™π–ˆ
-from what i remember, there was never a qualification to find out if you're really a fan of+
a group or not. I saw so many people getting hate because they made a video of finding out if they know the song of the group they like. just support the artists, like some of their music and respect them. you're a fan, people should know that it's fine if they don't know all+
the songs of the artist. especially if they're a new fan, they can still learn more of their songs in the future. instead of spreading hate, why not just recommend them some of the artists' songs, right?
π–™π–π–Žπ–“π–π–Žπ–“π–Œ π–žπ–”π–š'π–—π–Š π–‡π–Šπ–™π–™π–Šπ–— π–‡π–Šπ–ˆπ–†π–šπ–˜π–Š π–žπ–”π–š'π–—π–Š 𝖆𝖓 𝖔𝖑𝖉 𝖋𝖆𝖓
-if you're a new or old fan, nothing is different between you and that person who just started liking the artist. it doesn't make you a lot more better because you're an old fan+
and it doesn't make the new fans less better because they're a new fan. be humble and welcome the new fan into the fandom, because the fandom of the artist you like is a whole family
π–™π–π–Žπ–“π–π–Žπ–“π–Œ π–žπ–”π–š'π–—π–Š π–‡π–Šπ–™π–™π–Šπ–— π–‡π–Šπ–ˆπ–†π–šπ–˜π–Š π–žπ–”π–š'π–—π–Š 𝖆 π–’π–šπ–‘π–™π–Žπ–˜π–™π–†π–“
-no, susan it doesn't make you better because you're a multistan. sure, be proud of being a multistan, but disliking or hating on a person who only likes one group is overboard+
they have their own reasons why they only stan one group or artist, or maybe they're just new to the kpop world. it's their choice if they want to stan more than one group, not yours
π–™π–π–Žπ–“π–π–Žπ–“π–Œ π–žπ–”π–š'π–—π–Š π–‡π–Šπ–™π–™π–Šπ–— π–‡π–Šπ–ˆπ–†π–šπ–˜π–Š π–žπ–”π–š π–˜π–™π–†π–“ π–šπ–“π–‰π–Šπ–—π–—π–†π–™π–Šπ–‰ π–Œπ–—π–”π–šπ–•π–˜/π–‡π–†π–“π–‰π–˜/π–˜π–”π–‘π–”π–Žπ–˜π–™ π–Šπ–™π–ˆ
-of course, you would be happy you stan underrated groups, and you can help and make the artist bigger, it's fine, sure recommend us some+
underrated groups you know or you like, why not? but, it's our choice if we would stan the group or not. and if you think you're better because you stan underrated groups, you're not. you're the same as every kpop stan. you're a fan, you should know that
π–ˆπ–”π–’π–•π–†π–—π–Žπ–“π–Œ π–œπ–π–”'π–˜ 𝖋𝖆𝖓𝖉𝖔𝖒 π–Žπ–˜ π–’π–”π–—π–Š π–™π–”π–π–Žπ–ˆ
we all know there are toxicity in every fandom, and we can't deny it. we also can't get rid of them. we have to deal with it, but we shouldn'y compare who's fandom is more toxic. it would cause fanwars
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