🥇 Messi 🇦🇷
🥈 Ronaldo 🇵🇹

A thread proving Messi is by far the better player versus top teams 🐐

-- La Liga 09/10 to 17/18 - -
* EXPERIMENT *

Messi 🇦🇷 v Ronaldo 🇵🇹

Vote who you think is better v Top 10 teams, then vote at the end of the thread again once you have read the facts
I will start with totals, for those that dont want to read season by season stats (if you do want to - keep reading the thread!)

Will go in this order...
Total Goals v Top X
Total Assists v Top X
Total Goals and Assists v Top X

Followed by best 3 seasons against top 3-10 ✅
TOTAL goals v Top X -
from 09/10 to 17/18
(🇦🇷 v 🇵🇹)

Top 3: 2️⃣8️⃣ v 2️⃣0️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 4: 4️⃣7️⃣ v 3️⃣8️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 5: 6️⃣8️⃣ v 6️⃣3️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 6: 8️⃣3️⃣ v 8️⃣3️⃣ 🇦🇷/🇵🇹
Top 7: 1️⃣0️⃣2️⃣ v 9️⃣9️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 8: 1️⃣1️⃣7️⃣ v 1️⃣1️⃣2️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 9: 1️⃣3️⃣1️⃣ v 1️⃣2️⃣9️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 10: 1️⃣5️⃣0️⃣ v 1️⃣4️⃣5️⃣ 🇦🇷
TOTAL assists v Top X -
from 09/10 to 17/18
(🇦🇷 v 🇵🇹)

Top 3: 1️⃣1️⃣ v 2️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 4: 1️⃣5️⃣ v 5️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 5: 1️⃣9️⃣ v 9️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 6: 2️⃣9️⃣ v 1️⃣3️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 7: 3️⃣8️⃣ v 2️⃣3️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 8: 4️⃣5️⃣ v 2️⃣8️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 9: 5️⃣1️⃣ v 3️⃣5️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 10: 5️⃣9️⃣ v 4️⃣1️⃣ 🇦🇷

Messi has more v top 3 than CR v top 5
Total goals and assists v Top X -
from 09/10 to 17/18
(🇦🇷 v 🇵🇹)

Top 3: 3️⃣9️⃣ v 2️⃣2️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 4: 6️⃣2️⃣ v 4️⃣3️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 5: 8️⃣7️⃣ v 7️⃣2️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 6: 1️⃣1️⃣2️⃣ v 9️⃣6️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 7: 1️⃣4️⃣0️⃣ v 1️⃣2️⃣2️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 8: 1️⃣6️⃣2️⃣ v 1️⃣4️⃣0️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 9: 1️⃣8️⃣2️⃣ v 1️⃣6️⃣4️⃣ 🇦🇷
Top 10: 2️⃣0️⃣9️⃣ v 1️⃣8️⃣6️⃣ 🇦🇷
Quick stats:

Most G v a top 10 opponent in a season - Leo 🇦🇷 6️⃣

Most hattricks v a top 10 opponent in a season - Leo 🇦🇷 2️⃣

Most assists v a top 10 opponent in a season - Leo 🇦🇷 5️⃣

Most G and A v a top 10 opponent in a season -
Leo 🇦🇷 7️⃣ (v 3rd place)
CR 🇵🇹 7️⃣ (v 7th place)
Best goal seasons v Top 3:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 - 5️⃣ goals (12/13)
🥈 - 4️⃣ goals (09/10)
🥉 - 4️⃣ goals (11/12)

Cristiano 🇵🇹
🥇 - 3️⃣ goals (10/11)
🥈 - 3️⃣ goals (12/13)
🥉 - 3️⃣ goals (14/15)

1-0 to Messi on this.
Next up - assists... 👇
Best assist seasons v top 3:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 4️⃣ assists (11/12)
🥈 2️⃣ assists (13/14)
🥉 2️⃣ assists (14/15)

Cristiano 🇵🇹
🥇 1️⃣ assist (12/13)
🥈 1️⃣ assist (13/14)
🥉 0️⃣ assists (all other seasons)

I make that 2-0.

Next up is top 4..👇
Top goal seasons v top 4:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 1️⃣0️⃣ goals (11/12)
🥈 8️⃣ goals (12/13)
🥉 7️⃣ goals (09/10)

Cristiano 🇵🇹
🥇 8️⃣ goals (10/11)
🥈 6️⃣ goals (16/17)
🥉 5️⃣ goals (11/12)

3-0 to the little magician ☑️

Assists v top 4...👇
Best assist seasons v top 4:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 4️⃣ Assists (11/12)
🥈 3️⃣ Assists (14/15)
🥉 2️⃣ Assists (17/18)

Cristiano 🇵🇹
🥇 2️⃣ assists (13/14)
🥈 1️⃣ assist (10/11)
🥉 1️⃣ assist (11/12)

4-0. This is only going 1 way 😱

👇👇
Best goal seasons v Top 5:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 1️⃣4️⃣ Goals (11/12)
🥈 9️⃣ Goals (12/13)
🥉 9️⃣ Goals (16/17)

Cristiano 🇵🇹
🥇 1️⃣2️⃣ goals (10/11)
🥈 1️⃣0️⃣ goals (11/12)
🥉 7️⃣ goals (12/13)

This was closer. However, 5-0.

We move onto assists.
👇
Best assist seasons v top 5:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 5️⃣ Assists (11/12)
🥈 3️⃣ Assists (10/11)
🥉 3️⃣ Assists (13/14)

Cristiano 🇵🇹
🥇 3️⃣ Assists (11/12)
🥈 2️⃣ Assists (12/13)
🥉 2️⃣ Assists (13/14)

6-0.

Onto top 6....
Best goal seasons v top 6:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 1️⃣7️⃣ Goals (11/12)
🥈 1️⃣2️⃣ Goals (16/17)
🥉 1️⃣0️⃣ Goals (12/13)

Cristiano 🇵🇹
🥇 1️⃣6️⃣ Goals (10/11)
🥈 1️⃣3️⃣ Goals (11/12)
🥉 9️⃣ Goals (14/15)

Now we're getting towards the softer teams Cristiano is catching up. Still a win for Leo. 7-0
Best assist seasons v top 6:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 6️⃣ Assists (11/12)
🥈 4️⃣ Assists (14/15)
🥉 3️⃣ Assists (17/18)

Cristiano
🥇 4️⃣ Assists (11/12)
🥈 4️⃣ Assists (12/13)
🥉 2️⃣ Assists (13/14)

8-0.

Top 7?...
Best goals season v top 7:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 2️⃣0️⃣ Goals (11/12)
🥈 1️⃣4️⃣ Goals (12/13)
🥉 1️⃣3️⃣ Goals (16/17)

Cristiano 🇵🇹
🥇 1️⃣8️⃣ Goals (11/12)
🥈 1️⃣6️⃣ Goals (10/11)
🥉 1️⃣2️⃣ Goals (14/15)

9-0 to the tiny Argentine.
Best assist seasons v top 7:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 9️⃣ Assists (14/15)
🥈 8️⃣ Assists (11/12)
🥉 4️⃣ Assists (13/14)

Cristiano
🥇 6️⃣ Assists (11/12)
🥈 5️⃣ Assists (12/13)
🥉 3️⃣ Assists (09/10)

10-0. Messi cant be beaten at this point, but let's keep going anyway.

Onto the top 8...
Best goals seasons v top 8:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 2️⃣4️⃣ Goals (11/12)
🥈 1️⃣8️⃣ Goals (12/13)
🥉 1️⃣4️⃣ Goals (16/17)

Cristiano 🇵🇹
🥇 1️⃣9️⃣ Goals (11/12)
🥈 1️⃣7️⃣ Goals (10/12)
🥉 1️⃣5️⃣ Goals (14/15)

That is 11-0.
Assists...
Best assist season v top 8:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 9️⃣ Assists (11/12)
🥈 9️⃣ Assists (14/15)
🥉 6️⃣ Assists (10/11)

Cristiano 🇵🇹
🥇 6️⃣ Assists (11/12)
🥈 5️⃣ Assists (12/13)
🥉 4️⃣ Assists (13/14)

So far Messi has had the best seasons for goals or assists v top 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 😲
Best goal seasons v top 9:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 2️⃣5️⃣ Goals (11/12)
🥈 1️⃣9️⃣ Goals (12/13)
🥉 1️⃣5️⃣ Goals (16/17)

Cristiano 🇵🇹
🥇 2️⃣3️⃣ Goals (11/12)
🥈 1️⃣7️⃣ Goals (10/11)
🥉 1️⃣6️⃣ Goals (14/15)

13-0.

Assists.. 👇
Best assist seasons v top 9:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 9️⃣ Assists (11/12)
🥈 9️⃣ Assists (14/15)
🥉 6️⃣ Assists (13/14)

Cristiano 🇵🇹
🥇 7️⃣ Assists (14/15)
🥈 6️⃣ Assists (11/12)
🥉 6️⃣ Assists (12/13)

14-0 to Leo.

We are finally on the last 1.
The top 10....👇
Best goals seasons v top 10:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 2️⃣7️⃣ Goals (11/12)
🥈 2️⃣2️⃣ Goals (12/13)
🥉 1️⃣8️⃣ Goals (16/17)

Cristiano 🇵🇹
🥇 2️⃣6️⃣ Goals (11/12)
🥈 1️⃣9️⃣ Goals (14/15)
🥉 1️⃣7️⃣ Goals (10/11)

Cristiano has 1 last chance to get a point - assists v top 10....
👇
Best assist seasons v top 10:

Messi 🇦🇷
🥇 1️⃣0️⃣ Assists (11/12)
🥈 9️⃣ Assists (14/15)
🥉 8️⃣ Assists (10/11)

Cristiano 🇵🇹
🥇 9️⃣ Assists (14/15)
🥈 7️⃣ Assists (11/12)
🥉 6️⃣ Assists (12/23)

Clean sweep for Messi -
16-0
So in summary:

Messi scores more goals AND assists more goals against top:

3️⃣
4️⃣
5️⃣
6️⃣
7️⃣
8️⃣
9️⃣
1️⃣0️⃣

Ronaldo scores or assists more v none of the top half.
Hope you enjoyed this thread.

Now with the facts displayed, who do you think was better v top teams?

Ill be honest I initially expected Ronaldo to come out on top - which shows how powerful his PR is.
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