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Quick thread about a widely media'd but little read "study", the one referenced here... https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/us/coronavirus-cases-protests-black-lives-matter-trnd/index.html
Economist magazine is distinguished, they talk about that same study. Did their readers actually study the study, nah https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/06/30/black-lives-matter-protests-did-not-cause-an-uptick-in-covid-19-cases
First, before we dive, we have some issues:
In NYC contact tracers could ask if people participated in the protests. We're dealing with incrediblky incomplete information to inform a "study" https://www.businessinsider.com/nyc-contact-tracers-not-asking-people-attend-george-floyd-protest-2020-6
In NYC contact tracers could ask if people participated in the protests. We're dealing with incrediblky incomplete information to inform a "study" https://www.businessinsider.com/nyc-contact-tracers-not-asking-people-attend-george-floyd-protest-2020-6
"Florida Dep of Health in Orange County... said that contact tracers...don’t specifically ask about a patient’s participation in protests or other political activity. https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/06/30/covid-19-patients-arent-asked-whether-they-participated-in-protests-doctor-says/
"The ideal way to know how many people in a community have had coronavirus infections...is to collect blood samples from people in every age group, looking for antibodies against the coronavirus, which show that someone has previously been infected.....
Data from such serology studies, as they are called, can then be used to accurately determine rates of fatality and transmission" https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00760-8
Folks, i didn't forget about anything said back when spreading coronavirus was a thing, then it took a break, now its a thing again https://qz.com/1819484/covid-19-is-mostly-spread-by-undetected-people/
"“We know this is just the tip of the iceberg...The question is how much of the iceberg is submerged....if you’re not in a place where you’re not proactively looking for people and testing, then the majority of infections will go undetected...stealth transmission,”
and this gem
Now the study
here it is https://www.nber.org/papers/w27408.pdf
"NBER working papers are circulated for discussion and comment purposes. They have not been
peer-reviewed or been subject to the review by the NBER Board of Directors that accompanies
official NBER publications"
here it is https://www.nber.org/papers/w27408.pdf
"NBER working papers are circulated for discussion and comment purposes. They have not been
peer-reviewed or been subject to the review by the NBER Board of Directors that accompanies
official NBER publications"
the studies authors have no history of academic peer reviewed papers on the subject, no virologists or in infectiology
Dhaval M. Dave: Professor, Economics
https://faculty.bentley.edu/details.asp?uname=ddave
Dhaval M. Dave: Professor, Economics
https://faculty.bentley.edu/details.asp?uname=ddave
Samuel Safford: Grad Research Fellow at SDSU Research Foundation. 2 working studies in NBER published
June: Black Lives Matter Protests, Social Distancing, and COVID-19
May: Were Urban Cowboys Enough to Control COVID-19? Local Shelter-in-Place Orders and Coronavirus Case Growth
June: Black Lives Matter Protests, Social Distancing, and COVID-19
May: Were Urban Cowboys Enough to Control COVID-19? Local Shelter-in-Place Orders and Coronavirus Case Growth
Safford gives a bit of his bio and interests:
predoctoral research associate...before applying for PhD programs in Sociology and Demography. I am interested in economic and social demography, gender and sexuality, social policy, and social movements - primarily LGBTQ-related.
predoctoral research associate...before applying for PhD programs in Sociology and Demography. I am interested in economic and social demography, gender and sexuality, social policy, and social movements - primarily LGBTQ-related.
Joseph J. Sabia:
His research interests are in the economics of risky behaviors, the economics of national defense, and minimum wage policy.
He is as much of a virologist as I am
https://economics.sdsu.edu/faculty/sabia.html
His research interests are in the economics of risky behaviors, the economics of national defense, and minimum wage policy.
He is as much of a virologist as I am
https://economics.sdsu.edu/faculty/sabia.html
Kyutaro Matsuzawa
Hes written for about a year
Sample:
Did President Trump’s Tulsa Rally Reignite COVID-19? Indoor Events and Offsetting Community Effects
Did the Wisconsin Supreme Court Restart a COVID-19 Epidemic? Evidence from a Natural Experiment
https://mirror.nber.org/people/kyutaro_matsuzawa
Hes written for about a year
Sample:
Did President Trump’s Tulsa Rally Reignite COVID-19? Indoor Events and Offsetting Community Effects
Did the Wisconsin Supreme Court Restart a COVID-19 Epidemic? Evidence from a Natural Experiment
https://mirror.nber.org/people/kyutaro_matsuzawa
Andrew Friedson
Andrew Friedson, Ph.D • Assistant Professor
ECONOMICS
another on of 'em not a virologists, not a doctor with relevant experience, no background in infectiology. But here we are https://clas.ucdenver.edu/economics/andrew-friedson
Andrew Friedson, Ph.D • Assistant Professor
ECONOMICS
another on of 'em not a virologists, not a doctor with relevant experience, no background in infectiology. But here we are https://clas.ucdenver.edu/economics/andrew-friedson
Im sure these are all great people and very good at what they do, but virologist and/or infectiologist ain't it, nor is peer review
A working paper can say anything it wants
Like the Neil Ferguson from Imperial College paper that began this mess...
A working paper can say anything it wants
Like the Neil Ferguson from Imperial College paper that began this mess...
Covid-19: the study from Imperial College that drove urgent UK/US government policy was not peer reviewed; unlikely it was externally reviewed at all.
The computer code used to produce the estimates were, by Ferguson’s own admission, old, unverified and documented inadequately
The computer code used to produce the estimates were, by Ferguson’s own admission, old, unverified and documented inadequately
And this, a sci-fi writer and an adult actress on the payroll completely faked results on a coronavirus study ang got it published in the very prestigious The Lancet = everyone believed it, causing changes to treatments around the world https://bit.ly/3h2YJV0
Two outside lead funders, one is Charles Koch
Foundation. I'm old enough to remember when he was "literally hitler" https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/how-koch-industries-wields-power-true-evil
Foundation. I'm old enough to remember when he was "literally hitler" https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/how-koch-industries-wields-power-true-evil
and an oligarch destroying america while pretending he was trying to save it https://bit.ly/3h2YJV0
Seems all is forgvien now, eh? Money and PR do that https://www.wbur.org/cognoscenti/2016/01/26/charles-david-koch-jane-mayer-new-yorker-janna-malamud-smith
I wish i could dig thru the "study" itself but it is a "working paper" which could and will be different whenever they chose to make it so.
They aren't peer reviwed and never will be.
Because they're not meant to be.
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Wait! there's more! this is annie
They aren't peer reviwed and never will be.
Because they're not meant to be.
/end
Wait! there's more! this is annie
Ha, i got one more tweet!
I messed up on the link about the Koch brothers, the funders of the "study" and linked to the same story twice, here you go... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/28/the-koch-brothers-tried-to-build-a-plutocracy-in-the-name-of-freedom
I messed up on the link about the Koch brothers, the funders of the "study" and linked to the same story twice, here you go... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/28/the-koch-brothers-tried-to-build-a-plutocracy-in-the-name-of-freedom
Oh my, one more tweet! In my covid daily log, the private one that i'll share one day, i call this "Fake reality, real news"
Heres socme awesome music from the Penn Station train stop, when times were kinda normal, in February
Heres socme awesome music from the Penn Station train stop, when times were kinda normal, in February
oooh, correctionsIn an early tweet about NYC i wrote "could"/I meant couldn't = contact tracers CANNOT ask about ppl participation in protests. It's headline of article, so no harm no foul, but i come legit
Also, the music was at Times Square
And here's a picture of my back
Aw whatever, another tweet.
A thread about the earlier WHO and Neil Ferguson "world's gonna die" pandemics that came before.
Hoof and mouth and H1N1... https://twitter.com/adamscrabble/status/1245781899047510016?s=19
A thread about the earlier WHO and Neil Ferguson "world's gonna die" pandemics that came before.
Hoof and mouth and H1N1... https://twitter.com/adamscrabble/status/1245781899047510016?s=19
