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The short answer is:
Not a threat.
Chinese weapons never works as advertised.
NEVER.
But.
Here& #39;s what we KNOW we& #39;re doing. Of course we have secret capabilities that only @realDonaldTrump and @VP Pence and a few others know about.
Not a threat.
Chinese weapons never works as advertised.
NEVER.
But.
Here& #39;s what we KNOW we& #39;re doing. Of course we have secret capabilities that only @realDonaldTrump and @VP Pence and a few others know about.
Chinese hypersonic missiles are called anti-access area denial (A2AD) weapons.
Interestingly, the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) said THIS in October of 2016:
Interestingly, the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) said THIS in October of 2016:
"& #39;We& #39;re going to scale down the mention of A2AD,& #39; Adm. John Richardson said Monday, referring to the acronym for anti-access area denial, a warfighting approach with, he said, a variety of definitions."
"& #39;It& #39;s a term bandied about pretty freely and lacks the precise definition it probably would benefit from, and that ambiguity sends a variety of signals," Richardson said. & #39;Specifics matter.& #39;"
https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2016/10/04/cno-bans-a2ad-as-jargon/">https://www.defensenews.com/naval/201...
Guess what THAT means?
New weapons.
Trump& #39;s people were already talking with the military even before Trump won the election.
To avoid confusion, I& #39;m going to use A2AD in this thread.
New weapons.
Trump& #39;s people were already talking with the military even before Trump won the election.
To avoid confusion, I& #39;m going to use A2AD in this thread.
First, the Navy:
TONS of ways to defeat Chinese A2AD weapons.
TONS of ways to defeat Chinese A2AD weapons.
The easiest way is to destroy the missiles before they& #39;re launched.
We& #39;ll get back to that in a moment.
But:
We& #39;ll get back to that in a moment.
But:
"Once the missiles are en route, the key might lie in the Naval Integrated Fire Control-Counter Air (NIFC-CA) battle network combined with the firepower of the carriers’ escort vessels."
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/might-be-navys-best-bet-defeat-chinas-many-anti-ship-missiles-149786">https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz...
But the navy won& #39;t have to fight alone.
"As the Multi-Domain Task Force pilot program nears its end, the Army is now using lessons from it to establish three similar task forces."
"Assigned under U.S. Army Pacific Command in 2017, the pilot has participated in several exercises, including nine major joint training events across the region, to focus on penetrating an enemy environment."
"With the 17th Field Artillery Brigade as its core, the task force also has an I2CEWS detachment testing intelligence, information operations, cyber, electronic warfare and space assets that can counter enemy A2AD capabilities."
https://www.army.mil/article/228393/army_to_build_three_multi_domain_task_forces_using_lessons_from_pilot">https://www.army.mil/article/2...
What& #39;s "I2CEWS"?
"The Army& #39;s space, cyber and electronic warfare capabilities came together for the first time in a single unit during a brief ceremony at Joint Base Lewis McChord, Washington Jan. 11."
"The activation of the new Intelligence, Information, Cyber, Electronic Warfare and Space unit, also known as I2CEWS, was a historic event for the Soldiers of America& #39;s First Corps."
https://www.army.mil/article/216236/new_space_cyber_battalion_activates_at_jblm">https://www.army.mil/article/2...
Why are the Multi Domain Task Forces built around artillery brigades?
"The U.S. Army is pushing ahead with plans to field a cannon with an astounding 1,000-mile+ range. The cannon, along with hypersonic weapons, will allow the service to attack long range, strategic-level targets far beyond the reach of existing Army systems."
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a29476778/army-long-range-cannon/">https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/...
And what about the Marines?
"The Marine Corps will be trained and equipped as a naval expeditionary force-in-readiness and prepared to operate inside actively contested maritime spaces in support of fleet operations."
"Central to Berger’s vision is the ability to operate within an adversary’s (read China’s) bubble of air, missile, and naval power (which the Marine Corps calls the weapons engagement zone, or WEZ)."
"The concept is that the Marine Corps will be a & #39;stand-in force& #39; that will operate within this WEZ, not a stand-off force that must start outside and fight its way in."
"As the guidance states: & #39;Stand-in forces [are] optimized to operate in close and confined seas in defiance of adversary long-range precision "stand-off capabilities."& #39;"
"Another element of the new concept is & #39;distributed operations,& #39; the ability of relatively small groups to operate independently rather than as part of a large force, as in previous wars."
"& #39;We recognize that we must distribute our forces ashore given the growth of adversary precision strike capabilities . . . and create the virtues of mass without the vulnerabilities of concentration.& #39;"
"Thus, small Marine forces would deploy around the islands of the first island chain and the South China Sea, each element having the ability to contest the surrounding air and naval space using anti-air and antiship missiles."
"Collectively, these forces would attrite Chinese forces, inhibit them from moving outward, and ultimately, as part of a joint campaign, squeeze them back to the Chinese homeland."
"A third element was institutional: the Marine Corps would leave sustained ground combat to the Army and focus on the littorals. Ground wars in the Middle East, North Korea, and Europe would be Army responsibilities."
https://www.csis.org/analysis/marine-corps-radical-shift-toward-china">https://www.csis.org/analysis/...
Radical president, radical changes in the armed forces.
The last war the Chinese fought was in 1979, against the Vietnamese.
The Chinese lost 30,000 dead in THREE WEEKS.
There& #39;s something else that nobody has mentioned:
The last war the Chinese fought was in 1979, against the Vietnamese.
The Chinese lost 30,000 dead in THREE WEEKS.
There& #39;s something else that nobody has mentioned:
The Chinese lack the ability to FIND our carrier strike forces at sea.
SO, to recap:
Soon we& #39;ll have long-range precision weapons, massive firepower, the ability to destroy Chinese electronics, and small units of marines ALREADY THERE.
SO, to recap:
Soon we& #39;ll have long-range precision weapons, massive firepower, the ability to destroy Chinese electronics, and small units of marines ALREADY THERE.
Singapore went on a massive military buying spree.
Why?
Because they& #39;re one of the countries with which we have what& #39;s called a "special relationship."
Israel, the UK, and Australia are the others.
Singapore can now prevent the Chinese navy from leaving the South China Sea.
Why?
Because they& #39;re one of the countries with which we have what& #39;s called a "special relationship."
Israel, the UK, and Australia are the others.
Singapore can now prevent the Chinese navy from leaving the South China Sea.
The Chinese would have to get past Australia.
No can do, mate.
So AGAIN, @Brian_in_Dorset, we COULD "push around" the Chinese all we wanted.
They got NOTHING.
But we DON& #39;T want to. We want them to STOP being destructive buttholes and start acting civilized.
No can do, mate.
So AGAIN, @Brian_in_Dorset, we COULD "push around" the Chinese all we wanted.
They got NOTHING.
But we DON& #39;T want to. We want them to STOP being destructive buttholes and start acting civilized.
Like us.
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