#SEVENTEEN 's Achievements from Debut Until May 24, 2020

- a much needed (long) thread to help non-Carats and other Kpop fans recognize that @pledis_17 is already a successful group even before BigHit became their company's major shareholder

1) Seventeen had their debut aired live on a one-hour broadcast on MBC, making them the first male Kpop group to do so.

2) Their first EP <17 Carat> was the only rookie album on "Billboard's 10 Best K-pop Albums of 2015" and became the longest-charting K-pop album of the year in the US. Member and vocal team leader Woozi wass the main producer for 4 out of the 5 songs in the album.

3) Only a week into their debut, they already charted at #9 on Billboard World Albums

4) Their first comeback with second EP <Boys Be> became the highest-selling rookie album of 2015, placing #15 on Gaon. Woozi was again the main producer for 4 out of the 5 songs in the album.

5) With only 2 mini albums, <17 Carat> and <Boys Be> - they already sold 160K units and were already named super rookies by several award shows
Gaon Chart Music Awards: World Rookie / ROTY
Seoul Music Awards: New Artist
Golden Disc Awards: Best New Artist

6) Seventeen was also the only K-pop group on Billboard's "21 Under 21 2015: Music's Hottest Young Stars" list

7) Seventeen's first solo concert held on 2015 entitled <Boys Wish> was sold out after just 1 minute. Following this, their encore concert in 2016 with the title <Like Seventeen - Boys Wish Encore Concert> was sold out within 5 minutes.

8) Seventeen's first full album <Love&Letter> released on April 25, topped at #1 on Hanteo for the week of Apr 25 - May 1. The two versions of the album in total sold over 80,000 copies in the first week of its release. Woozi is the main producer for 8/10 of the songs.

9) Despite the domestic success, Seventeen's <Love&Letter> also topped the weekly pop album chart for the week of May 9 for Oricon, Japan's biggest sales site.

10) Seventeen got their first music show win on May 4, 2016 with <Pretty U>, the title track for <Love&Letter>. They were up against bigger groups in the industry such as Vixx and Block B, as well as soloist Jung Eun Ji, and the even-then-already-popular group Twice.

11) On July 4, Seventeen released <Love&Letter Repackage> with Aju Nice as the title track. The album ranked #1 on both Hanteo and Synnara for the daily sales on July 9. Woozi is the main producer for 4 out of the 5 added songs.

12) They had their successful first one-month Asia Pacific Tour entitled <Shining Diamonds> which included 9 countries from August to September, 2016 with 20,000 attendees.

13) Before the end of 2016, they released their third EP <Going Seventeen>. All 3 versions took #2, #3, and #4 on Hanteo and the totaled took #1. The album sold 131K+ on its first week. Woozi is the main producer for 4/6 songs. Mingyu and Hoshi also participated in composing.

14) Despite not having been debuted in Japan, their <17 Japan Concert: Say The Name #Seventeen > attracted a total of 50,000 spectators.

15) While in Japan, they filmed their second season of One Fine Day and became the first idol group to have a second season of the series. It was created as a collaboration between SK broadcaster MBC and JP network Music On! TV, proving Japanese viewers' interest over the group.

16) Seventeen's fourth EP <AL1>, took #1 on Hanteo's weekly album sales chart on the first week of its release, selling over 192,300+ copies. Woozi was the main producer for 4 out of the 6 songs in the album.

17) After visiting 13 cities for their first world tour, they released their second full album <Teen, Age> selling over 215,000 copies on its first week alone. Woozi was the main producer for 7/10 songs. Vernon was the main producer for one song and DK co-produced another.

18) <Thanks>, the title track for their special/repackage album <Director's Cut> reached first place on iTunes charts in 29 countries. During this time, they were named as one of the best K-pop groups by Time magazine. As always, Woozi was the main producer for all four new songs

19) Their OST <A-Teen> debuted at #9 but later rose to #1 and was named OST of the Year by MAMA on 2018. As per usual, Woozi produced the song.

20) On May 30, 2018, Svt's Japanese Debut mini-album <We Make You> sold over 100K copies on its first week - an outstanding number for any foreign JP debut. Out of the 13 members, 9 were credited for lyrics, with Woozi producing 3/5 songs and Hoshi producing another.

21) Two months after their JP debut, they released their fifth EP <You Make My Day> selling over 268K in its first week. Woozi was the main producer for 5/6 songs. Scoups also participated.

22) Before the end of 2018, their <Ideal Cut> concert in Seoul sold out within 2 minutes. <Ideal Cut> also became their third sold out concert in Manila, a streak that previously was only achieved by Super Junior, Exo, and BTS.

23) On January of 2019, their sixth EP <You Made My Dawn> sold over 338K+ copies on its first week, as per Hanteo, and has already sold more than 100K copies in Japan to date, as per Oricon. +

<You Made My Dawn> also charted #1 on Oricon's Weekly Album chart. Along with this, the title track <Home> gave the group 10 music show wins. Woozi was the main producer for the song, along with 3 of the 5 b-sides. Vernon co-produced 2 songs.

24) On May 29, they released their 1st Japanese single, Happy Ending. It peaked at #1 on the Oricon Daily Singles Chart and went on to receive Platinum status from the Recording Industry Association of Japan (RIAJ). +

The single is still charting on Oricon Weekly chart with a total of 56 weeks. Woozi was the main producer for all 3 songs and were helped by Scoups, Vernon, Mingyu, and Dino in lyric writing.

25) On Sep 2019, their 3rd full album <An Ode> sold over 700K+ on its first week & earned the group a daesang for AOTY. The album charted #1 on Oricon and was named as the best K-pop album of the year by Billboard. Woozi produced 10/11 songs. Vernon co-produced the remaining song

26) Seventeen's <Ode to You> concert in Seoul was sold out within minutes, and was also sold out in several other countries, including Japan and countries from Southeast Asia, North America, and Europe. Although the 2 continents were cancelled because of Covid-19.

27) By the end of 2019, excluding music shows, they have had 133 nominations for Year End Award Shows, as well as other TV award shows, including both local and international. Out of these, they were able to snatch 45 titles in under 5 years since debut.

28) On January 22, 2020, the Korea Music Copyright Association (KOMCA) updated their list of Top 80 Most Copyrighted Kpop Idols. Woozi placed at #16 with 87 songs copyrighted under his name. Vernon was at #33 with 59 songs and Scoups came in #48 with 50.

29) On April 1, 2020 Seventeen released their second Japanese single "Fallin' Flower", which sold more than 300,000 copies in its first week and secured first place on Billboard's Japan Hot 100 Chart.

30) Seventeen's albums have a consistent trend of growing exponentially, if the repackage albums are excluded. As per statistical predictions, their next comeback after <An Ode> was already bound to sell over a million, especially with 9 months preparation for the fans.

Special Mentions:
Gaon Chart Music Awards 2017 & 2019- Hot Performance Artist
MMA - Stage of the Year for 2019
MAMA 2016 - Best World Performer
MAMA 2017 & 2018 - Best Performance Male Group

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Other performance awards:

Korean Cable TV 2017 - Performance Award
CJ E&M America Awards - Best Kcon Special Stage of 2017

Seventeen has been recognized for their live performance and stages, and there's a reason for that. https://twitter.com/stngguk/status/1278999906338910209

Pledis confirmed #Seventeen 's comeback with #Henggarae on May 28, 3 days after the confirmation of Bighit becoming their major shareholder. ++

This is only an assumption but Big Hit did not seem very involved in the comeback, except for the live stage sets and the backup dancers that actually danced with svt for the first time since debut. Their previous backups used to dance only during the intros.

Again, #Seventeen 's comeback with #Henggarae was confirmed by Pledis only after 3 DAYS since the confirmation of BigHit being their major shareholder. The preorder for the album started on June 8, exactly 2 weeks after the BigHit news. ++

And Pledis reported that stock preorders already reached 1.06M on June 12. Even with 2 weeks, the news still resulted to mixed reactions but I am very sure that no one would buy a group's album simply because they're now under BigHit Labels.

Unless this was the year 2015, BigHit did not acquire Pledis for charity, to save it from bankruptcy. ++

#Seventeen already saved their company when they sold over 160K on their first year, when they sold out their concerts within minutes, when they reached 1M total sales in Gaon with only 4 EPs and 1 full album, when all their JP albums & singles sold over 100K+ in Oricon.

Looking at it from a business perspective, BigHit wanted a share of those numbers. Seventeen is one of the most profitable groups, they're the humblest, their fans are extremely rich that Pledis banned gifts, + the company has no need to buy songs, Seventeen makes them themselves

All 13 members have worked so hard and gave their 526% effort to deliver what they think their fans could be proud of. Seventeen has accomplished a lot in their 5 years, the world just wasn't paying attention. ++

I admit one reason for this might be bec Carats are so quietly celebrating every achievement. But the only reason we're not loud is for us to not look boastful; it's because we fear that what we do might reflect negatively on the boys, who are known to be an unproblematic group.

Stanning Seventeen or even just growing interested of them simply because they're now under BigHit Labels is completely fine, there's nothing wrong with that. But please don't think that everything they will accomplish from now on is all because of BH. ++

For one month since BH acquired Pledis, SVT has accomplished a lot. Still, aside from the mvs getting posted in BH's channel, & the obviously higher budget stage sets, & maybe their additional cars and dorm rooms, there is no evidence of BH doing something for them or their music

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Ok no, it's not the End. Because apparently, even though May 24, 2020 has ended, #Seventeen 's list of achievements until that day has no end. More slaps-in-their-faces will follow.