it's a bit chunky, a bit dense, but maybe it hits on the solid concrete aspect of the things/concepts/issues we've skirted around this week? i hope so!

have a read if u get a chance & check back in at ~7.30ish tonight, n i'll be Having Some Thoughts :)
ok noaffence, but i think i overestimated my own ability to grapple with the chunky aspects of this text, it's all a bit like Clever for me ahhh i've been PANICKIN for 20 mins
but today's text, as well as bein HEAVY, is an interview between Alessandra Cianetti (from PB) and Michaela Crimmin (Culture+Conflict). i'm not too sure how to sum up what they talk about, other than it bein CHUNKY so let's gettttt straight2it :)
i think maybe w this, i have v little to add? so most of this thread will be my questions & quotes:
'International conflict itself, and especially now, has no borders. Try and pinpoint a beginning or end to a particular conflict present or past, and you soon are thrown across time and space.'
i think too, the way international conflict takes place, is so like... it's the same few interchangeable players interacting with different iterations of proxies? i j don't understand american foreign policy, i don't understand the motive behind it all (other than profit)
this was mostly an interesting reference to me bc someone mentioned the Free Word centre 2 me this afternoon n when it popped up again here i went '!?'
https://www.cultureandconflict.org.uk/our-events/current-work/ << the event mentioned
maybe i'm j hangry but i don't understand this bit from Omar Kholeif, 'Omar Kholeif... framed the debate by asking whether art’s independence was not increasingly being subsumed by politics.'

i dont know if i have ever thought of art as separate from politics ever? idk?
like obvs it has such a specific political context here, the loaded concrete geopolitical, big P Politics; but, idk. i'm like, my reaction to that bit is '??? InDePenDenCE?? what independence?!?!?!'
'To begin with borders are a shared reality'
>> this is interesting, the idea that borders are not just individually experienced or understood, border as co-constructed or a collective object maybe?
quotes: “there is only one way into this life, and one way out of it. Everything that happens in between – all the thresholds we cross and recross, all the ‘decisions and revisions that a minute will reverse’ – is bordered by this unbiddable truth.
What we hope for is safe passage between these two fixed boundaries, to be able to make something of the experience of being alive before we are required to stop being alive. There’s no negotiating birth or death. What we have is the journey.”
the idea that borders, while being collectively understood, are universally experienced in a level and equal way is obvs not tru; 'It goes without saying that some people’s journeys, involving crossing many borders of various kinds, are a hell of a lot easier than others.
'However now in the UK we are being jolted into a prospect of not being able to travel quite so freely across certain countries’ borders that we have probably taken for granted all our lives.
Having been fed the heady concept of ‘globalisation’ – given the money, the ‘right’ passport and ownership of the right technology – and having been accustomed to an unprecedented ease of communication, we in the West are perhaps waking up.'
'There is a shuddering realisation that cyber walls are more porous than we had presumed; that drones might rather easily dodge a scrambled military aircraft; to say nothing of the nuclear threat that we have somehow buried at the back of our minds since the end of the Cold War.'
Alessandra asks about PROMISED LAND, two events that took place between the Goethe-Institut London, the ICA & central st martins. like, symposium & academia vibes tbh::

https://www.goethe.de/ins/gb/en/ver.cfm?fuseaction=events.detail&event_id=20828710
also, i know she's problematic & cancelled i kno i kno, but tbh i'm not fuckin clever! so i only really understand the idea of the west thru the video contrapoints did on it which makes it really clear and q neat, which i - an idiot - appreciated
'artist Emeka Okereke stated that we cannot speak of Europe without talking about its history of colonialism' <<< this maybe is a nice thread of related bits now oooo
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