Leo Hurtado Ibarra, murdered by SDPD downtown, died a three days ago. https://www.kpbs.org/news/2020/jun/30/man-shot-san-diego-police-officers-saturday-dies/

My friend asked me what we should do when someone is a mall shooter, how does that work with abolition. I wasn't really sure, but I was glad we were reimagining how that should go.

Content warning, homicide: I watched the footage released by police of Hurtado coming out of a shop, getting yelled at "hey stop we want to talk to you" by police officers. And when he starts running and touch his pocket, the police shoot him multiple times. They then...

...HANDCUFF his unconscious body (he is already laying face down in his blood). Then they start applying CPR. What broken ass death machine is this?

How about someone could have reached out to his family at home, talked to family members or friends, try to initiate a justice process that way? Did they have the right guy? Could he have been brought in without a conversation that translates to guns and carceral hell?

I had held off on watching the video because I am not into snuff aesthetics. But the sequence of talk-gun-cuff-CPR was really striking for the putative care sprinkled around murderous threat and violence.

This thread is not an opinion or knowledge leadership in any way. For that, check out @prisonculture. But I know lots of us are asking these questions, trying to understand the nitty gritty of how abolition works and I wanted to open up about this with my San Diego friends.