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Luis Suarez is clear of Thierry Henry.
Here's why
Here's why
-Now, in this thread, I'll be comparing the careers of Thierry Henry and Luis Suarez, and the attacking output of Luis Suarez makes Thierry Henry look average.
-I will be using their 10 year prime's as its long enough to count longevity, but doesn't include the retirement years of Henry, as it would be unfair on his numbers.
- I will also have a look at their actual prime seasons, and see who was best at the peak of their powers.
- I will also have a look at their actual prime seasons, and see who was best at the peak of their powers.
-So, lets look at their Goal & Assist (G/A) numbers, from their 10 year primes.
Thierry Henry (99/00-09/10, club & country)
-618 games
-328 goals (28 pens)
-151 assists
-Goals per 90: 0.61
-Assists per 90: 0.28
-G/A per 90: 0.89
-618 games
-328 goals (28 pens)
-151 assists
-Goals per 90: 0.61
-Assists per 90: 0.28
-G/A per 90: 0.89
Luis Suarez (09/10-19/20, club & country)
-588 games
-392 goals (29 pens)
-222 assists
-Goals per 90: 0.71
-Assists per 90: 0.4
-G/A per 90: 1.11
-588 games
-392 goals (29 pens)
-222 assists
-Goals per 90: 0.71
-Assists per 90: 0.4
-G/A per 90: 1.11
-As we can see, Luis Suarez is both the more prolific scorer and creator, by quite a large margin.
-To put these numbers into perspective
-To put these numbers into perspective
-Luis Suarez would have to go 88 full games, without scoring a single goal, to equal Henry's goals per 90.
-Luis Suarez would have to go 133 full games, without getting a single assist, to have equal Henry's assists per 90.
The difference in levels of output is staggering.
-Luis Suarez would have to go 133 full games, without getting a single assist, to have equal Henry's assists per 90.
The difference in levels of output is staggering.
-Now, that could be enough to show that, despite Henry's legendary status, his attacking output across his best 10 years, is simply nowhere near Luis Suarez's.
-But we will look at some more perspective.
-But we will look at some more perspective.
-Here is a graph looking at the attacking output of the best attackers of the 21st century (all adjusted for 10 year prime).
-As you can see, Suarez is the closest thing to Messi and Ronaldo, whilst Henry sits in the middle of the pack.
-As you can see, Suarez is the closest thing to Messi and Ronaldo, whilst Henry sits in the middle of the pack.
-So, we've looked at the consistency of Suarez, and can see he kept it up a level ahead of Henry, but maybe Henry had a better short prime?
-Well, you'd be wrong.
-Well, you'd be wrong.
Thierry Henry best season (02/03)
-55 games
-32 goals (3 pens)
-28 assists
-1.16 G/A per 90
Luis Suarez best season (15/16)
-53 games
-59 goals (4 pens)
-24 assists
-1.57 G/A per 90
Prime Suarez got 83 G/A in one season, thats equal to Cristiano Ronaldo's best.
-55 games
-32 goals (3 pens)
-28 assists
-1.16 G/A per 90
Luis Suarez best season (15/16)
-53 games
-59 goals (4 pens)
-24 assists
-1.57 G/A per 90
Prime Suarez got 83 G/A in one season, thats equal to Cristiano Ronaldo's best
.
-Now, some may point to that being because Suarez was in La Liga (not a valid excuse as Henry did worse in La Liga, and the difference in output is far too big to use excuses like that).
-So lets compare their prime Premier League seasons.
-So lets compare their prime Premier League seasons.
Henry 2002/03 PL season:
-37 games
-24 goals (3 pens)
-20 assists
-75 minutes per G/A.
Suarez 2013/14 PL season:
-33 games
-31 goals (0 pens)
-12 assists
-68.9 minutes per G/A.
That Suarez season holds the record for mins per G/A for any PL season, ever.
-37 games
-24 goals (3 pens)
-20 assists
-75 minutes per G/A.
Suarez 2013/14 PL season:
-33 games
-31 goals (0 pens)
-12 assists
-68.9 minutes per G/A.
That Suarez season holds the record for mins per G/A for any PL season, ever.
-It goes without saying Suarez's La Liga prime is far better than anything Henry did in La Liga, but I will look at their best Champions League campaign.
Henry 2003/04 UCL:
-10 games
-5 goals
-6 assists
-1.11 G/A per 90
Suarez 2015/16 UCL:
-9 games
-8 goals (0 pens)
-3 assists
-1.22 G/A per 90
Suarez slightly edging in this category too.
-10 games
-5 goals
-6 assists
-1.11 G/A per 90
Suarez 2015/16 UCL:
-9 games
-8 goals (0 pens)
-3 assists
-1.22 G/A per 90
Suarez slightly edging in this category too.
Now, before the excuses come flowing in, Suarez's 10 year prime only includes 1 and a half seasons in the Dutch league, and if it was taken out, his numbers would still be largely ahead of Henry's.
-Also, goals and assists are by no means everything, but are definitely the most important aspect of an attacker, there's no denying that.
-And we've seen the data, it shows Suarez did this WAY more consistently, both across 10 years and in his prime.
-And we've seen the data, it shows Suarez did this WAY more consistently, both across 10 years and in his prime.
-I want to talk quickly about Individual awards, whilst they were both showered in them, Henry would come out slightly on top.
-But there is many reasons for this.
-We all know Suarez is a highly controversial figure, whether is be for Racism allegations, or cannibalism.
-But there is many reasons for this.
-We all know Suarez is a highly controversial figure, whether is be for Racism allegations, or cannibalism.
-These awards are obviously very prestigious so Luis Suarez has often been snubbed, despite putting up attacking numbers and performances far better than others voted ahead of him.
-Some examples.
-Some examples.
-2014 balon dor, he had a record breaking season with Liverpool, yet wasn't even NOMINATED for the 30 man shortlist.
-2016 balon dor, 83 G/A, unheard of numbers, yet placed 4th, behind 3 attackers he out scored and assisted.
-UEFA team of the year, NEVER EVEN IN ONE!!
-2016 balon dor, 83 G/A, unheard of numbers, yet placed 4th, behind 3 attackers he out scored and assisted.
-UEFA team of the year, NEVER EVEN IN ONE!!
-Of course, Suarez has won 2 golden boots in the Messi-Ronaldo era (only player to even win 1), as this award is done by calculating, not politics or opinion.
-Henry also won 2 European golden boots, scoring 30 and 25 goals, whilst Suarez scored 31 and 40 for his two.
-Henry also won 2 European golden boots, scoring 30 and 25 goals, whilst Suarez scored 31 and 40 for his two.
-I'll end it by saying I think Henry is a fantastic player, fell off a bit towards the end of his career, but had a magnificent prime.
-But Luis Suarez, both across 10 years, or when just looking at prime, was just SO much more prolific, both scoring and creativity wise.
-But Luis Suarez, both across 10 years, or when just looking at prime, was just SO much more prolific, both scoring and creativity wise.
-Suarez's numbers are the closest thing to Messi and Ronaldo that we've seen, a true magician with elite level goal scoring and creativity.
End of thread.
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