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He shouldn't have been suspended. His statements threatened no one and are well within the bounds of acceptable discourse for anyone except those whose arguments depend on censoring others. @glinner's account should be reinstated. Those who disagree with him can simply do so. https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1277215917705920512
(mini-thread on adjusting one's position in response to feedback)
1/ I don't think it would be fair to delete my OT, but here's what I *should* have said:
1/ I don't think it would be fair to delete my OT, but here's what I *should* have said:
2/
"This ban surprises me because past statements of Linehan's that I've read didn't seem ban-worthy. Is there something particularly egregious I'm missing?"
"This ban surprises me because past statements of Linehan's that I've read didn't seem ban-worthy. Is there something particularly egregious I'm missing?"
3/ And of course, taking time to do some primary source research myself would have been good too. I didn't take that time -- that's my bad. (Twitter taking down the primary sources makes that harder -- a point on deplatforming that kind of makes itself, so I won't belabor it.)
4/ From what I've seen from what I've looked up since then, Linehan was rude in ways that, if he were behaving that way in a FOSS forum that I ran, I'd kick him out. (Different forums do & should have different ban thresholds.)
5/ If he enaged in platform manipulation (sock-puppetry), various forms of doxing, or certain other things that he's been accused of, then a Twitter ban is justified. It's not clear (from what I've seen so far) that he did those things -- but that's just the point:
6/ I didn't know, and therefore instead of posting a definitive and certain statement, I should have posted a question.
7/ Then I might have learned stuff without upsetting people I like!
Now, it's still clear that my ideal of what the ban policy should be on a huge platform like Twitter should be is a far outlier from what most of my friends and colleagues think it should be.
Now, it's still clear that my ideal of what the ban policy should be on a huge platform like Twitter should be is a far outlier from what most of my friends and colleagues think it should be.
8/ This is a long-standing worry about freedom of speech, and about bad policies coming back to bite us, that I have about the left/progressive demographic with which I am otherwise in agreement on almost everything. I've already written about that elsewhere, so I'll just link:
9/
https://www.rants.org/2018/10/thinking_creatively_about_ban_requests/
https://www.rants.org/2018/10/free_speech_and_the_nina_paley_test/
https://www.rants.org/2018/10/thinking_creatively_about_ban_requests/
https://www.rants.org/2018/10/free_speech_and_the_nina_paley_test/
10/ (last tweet in thread)
Thanks to those who posted information in this thread (I'm still reading & following links). Ban thresholds are debatable, but that debate should be shaped with real-world data. Had I done that homework myself, my OT would have been different.
Thanks to those who posted information in this thread (I'm still reading & following links). Ban thresholds are debatable, but that debate should be shaped with real-world data. Had I done that homework myself, my OT would have been different.
