the reporter is rapidly becoming the story
hmm

@NRO has a piece out, specifically a NYT hit, has some good context around anonymity policy and its history at NYT

nothing new to SSC that I know of, but it names names like @CadeMetz, @puiwingtam, @CorbettNYT https://www.nationalreview.com/news/what-a-nyt-reporters-doxxing-threat-says-about-the-papers-standards/">https://www.nationalreview.com/news/what...
What an NYT Reporter’s Doxing Threat Says about the Paper’s ‘Standards’

The lack of a hard-and-fast rule casts doubt on Metz’s professed inability to secure anonymity for Alexander.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/what-a-nyt-reporters-doxxing-threat-says-about-the-papers-standards/
also @RT_com from earlier

much lower quality

welp https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1275495528906678272?s=19">https://twitter.com/eigenrobo...
just in: @CharlesFLehman at @FreeBeacon

very good coverage and context, commentary from SSC and Scott Aaronson

@nytimes SCOOPED and boy crazy how easy it was to just use a pseudonym https://freebeacon.com/media/well-known-blogger-shuts-down-site-for-fear-of-nyt-doxxing/">https://freebeacon.com/media/wel...
Well-Known Blogger Shuts Down Site for Fear of NYT 'Doxxing'

A prominent pseudonymous blogger has shut down his site after a New York Times reporter refused to conceal his identity in a forthcoming piece, putting his livelihood and life in danger.

https://freebeacon.com/media/well-known-blogger-shuts-down-site-for-fear-of-nyt-doxxing/
worth noting @CharlesFLehman is willing to take commentary from informed people, and I& #39;ll suspend "Don& #39;t Talk To Reporters" this once (but please be careful even so)

Charles, I trust you will advise anyone who reaches out on downside risks. https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="❤️" title="Rotes Herz" aria-label="Emoji: Rotes Herz"> https://twitter.com/CharlesFLehman/status/1275531307871809538?s=19">https://twitter.com/CharlesFL...
interesting

note these are /alumni/ tho

imagine things look different inside https://twitter.com/CharlesFLehman/status/1275529044017197061?s=19">https://twitter.com/CharlesFL...
hmmmm

this has been in the works for a while (I think? No idea how long it takes to write a story)

curious angle https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1275543764614987778?s=19">https://twitter.com/paulg/sta...
. @MarcHochstein and @CoinDesk come out swinging, using as a case study and discussing their own policies

seems like this is congealing into a story about newspapers and pseudonymity https://www.coindesk.com/why-coindesk-respects-pseudonymity-a-stand-against-doxxing">https://www.coindesk.com/why-coind...
Why CoinDesk Respects Pseudonymity: A Stand Against Doxxing - CoinDesk

If you’re going to reveal someone’s personal information without their consent, you better have a damn good reason to do it, writes our executive editor.

https://www.coindesk.com/why-coindesk-respects-pseudonymity-a-stand-against-doxxing
meanwhile from a reporter at @NBCNews we have this Take

expect this will be the mainline press response: drawing circles around SSC and right folks

the Outgroup is Bad, news at 10 https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1275550404508618752?s=19">https://twitter.com/oneunders...
I dearly wish @RT_com had not written their dumb piece.
meanwhile, local freelance bluecheck maintains remarkable beginner mindset with respect to Journalism And Its Consequences

this is the kind of naive perspective I crave from people with bylines https://twitter.com/MattZeitlin/status/1275554109320503297?s=19">https://twitter.com/MattZeitl...
just imagine a world without the @nytimes!

I& #39;ve never unironically promoted a hash before but per @balajis, fuck it, #ghostnyt
https://twitter.com/ChristinaAsquit/status/1275465028137869314?s=19">https://twitter.com/Christina...
other news: @Scholars_Stage is putting together a letter to NYT. If you fit these criteria and are able to safely sign given your personal circumstances, please consider dropping him a DM https://twitter.com/Scholars_Stage/status/1275538549547372547?s=19">https://twitter.com/Scholars_...
meanwhile, in the case of @davidshor: news about internal dynamics of a journalist listserv

I post to add color re internal dynamics of one journo social space, and extremely not to Own the Libs, please and thank you. This is not a time or place for that https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/06/white-fragility-racism-racism-progressive-progressphiles-david-shor.html?__twitter_impression=true">https://nymag.com/intellige...
Bogus Racism Charge Melts Down Elite Progressive LISTSERV

A case study in why the White Fragility rules don’t work.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/06/white-fragility-racism-racism-progressive-progressphiles-david-shor.html?__twitter_impression=true
Continuing on this point, my impression is that journalism is in some ways a remarkably rarefied and idiosyncratic culture.

When attempting to exert external force on a social space, it& #39;s best to have an understanding of its internal dynamics.

(protip for @CadeMetz)
Here& #39;s Scott Aaronson& #39;s post on the matter. He& #39;s a sweetheart.

https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=4870 ">https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/...
. @nytimes may indeed be having a worse month than Scott

wonder how this affects things wrt this story

less organizational dry powder for fighting back?

internal incoherence --> they do something really stupid?

hmmmmmmm https://twitter.com/sarafischer/status/1275567845578084355?s=19">https://twitter.com/sarafisch...
guys if we can get them to lay off just one more person

wouldnt that be

nice
to be clear I would prefer no one be laid off ceteris paribus

I would be delighted if they simply developed a good policy around doxxing people like Scott

still

I will never fail in my duty to the sex number joke https://twitter.com/elmkast/status/1275576132239163393?s=19">https://twitter.com/elmkast/s...
on the other hand this also seems better than the baseline of doxxing Scott https://twitter.com/Altimor/status/1275534446368702464?s=19">https://twitter.com/Altimor/s...
commentary from writer at @TheAtlantic and something or other at Yale opposing doxxing

otoh, ironical bio,,,,,,,

https://twitter.com/gcaw/status/1275458587414818817?s=19">https://twitter.com/gcaw/stat...
referring earlier to comments re: internal journo comms, I think there is actually significance to these public statements by journalists for forming consensus around standards of practice

consider the effect in your own circles of prominent figures taking such stances openly
nb I have no idea what makes someone prominent in Journalism or what reflects social clout

I assume bylines listed in bios are a somewhat good standin for prestige but I have no idea how to read the particulars
these public statements are not cheap signals, either

@robertwrighter and @kausmickey were uneasy about shitting on the Sulzberger family in a @bloggingheads episode a week or two back because of the social/career implications

such stances are potentially costly.
and who even watches bloggingheads in 2020!
re internal operation at @nytimes, this would not surprise me at all

unsure how to counter this most effectively

entirely possible criticism makes them double down

hard to say really https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="🤔" title="Denkendes Gesicht" aria-label="Emoji: Denkendes Gesicht">

https://twitter.com/arachnocapital2/status/1275528687656423424?s=19">https://twitter.com/arachnoca...
hmm

@amber_athey at @SpectatorUSA has a piece

pro Scott natch, rides the privacy angle hard

still not stoked about right media bias in coverage, feels like another bit of partisan war which might be counterproductive https://spectator.us/new-york-times-private-slate-star-codex-blog/">https://spectator.us/new-york-...
The death of the private citizen | Spectator USA

The internet is not a private place, but news outlets have decided that it’s up to them to determine when someone loses their right to anonymity

https://spectator.us/new-york-times-private-slate-star-codex-blog/
Similarly @dcexaminer

This one is really tiresome honestly. @RT_com tier. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/new-york-times-threatens-to-out-science-blogger-after-protecting-identities-of-white-house-turncoats-and-chapo-trap-house-podcasters">https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/n...
New York Times threatens to out science blogger after protecting identities of White House turnco...

Less than a month ago, an internal mob at the New York Times terrorized the paper into overhauling the leadership of the opinion section. The mob did it with a claim that the paper had put people in...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/new-york-times-threatens-to-out-science-blogger-after-protecting-identities-of-white-house-turncoats-and-chapo-trap-house-podcasters
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