the reporter is rapidly becoming the story
hmm
@NRO has a piece out, specifically a NYT hit, has some good context around anonymity policy and its history at NYT
nothing new to SSC that I know of, but it names names like @CadeMetz, @puiwingtam, @CorbettNYT https://www.nationalreview.com/news/what-a-nyt-reporters-doxxing-threat-says-about-the-papers-standards/
@NRO has a piece out, specifically a NYT hit, has some good context around anonymity policy and its history at NYT
nothing new to SSC that I know of, but it names names like @CadeMetz, @puiwingtam, @CorbettNYT https://www.nationalreview.com/news/what-a-nyt-reporters-doxxing-threat-says-about-the-papers-standards/
also @RT_com from earlier
much lower quality
welp https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1275495528906678272?s=19
much lower quality
welp https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1275495528906678272?s=19
just in: @CharlesFLehman at @FreeBeacon
very good coverage and context, commentary from SSC and Scott Aaronson
@nytimes SCOOPED and boy crazy how easy it was to just use a pseudonym https://freebeacon.com/media/well-known-blogger-shuts-down-site-for-fear-of-nyt-doxxing/
very good coverage and context, commentary from SSC and Scott Aaronson
@nytimes SCOOPED and boy crazy how easy it was to just use a pseudonym https://freebeacon.com/media/well-known-blogger-shuts-down-site-for-fear-of-nyt-doxxing/
worth noting @CharlesFLehman is willing to take commentary from informed people, and I'll suspend "Don't Talk To Reporters" this once (but please be careful even so)
Charles, I trust you will advise anyone who reaches out on downside risks.
https://twitter.com/CharlesFLehman/status/1275531307871809538?s=19
Charles, I trust you will advise anyone who reaches out on downside risks.

interesting
note these are /alumni/ tho
imagine things look different inside https://twitter.com/CharlesFLehman/status/1275529044017197061?s=19
note these are /alumni/ tho
imagine things look different inside https://twitter.com/CharlesFLehman/status/1275529044017197061?s=19
hmmmm
this has been in the works for a while (I think? No idea how long it takes to write a story)
curious angle https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1275543764614987778?s=19
this has been in the works for a while (I think? No idea how long it takes to write a story)
curious angle https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1275543764614987778?s=19
. @MarcHochstein and @CoinDesk come out swinging, using as a case study and discussing their own policies
seems like this is congealing into a story about newspapers and pseudonymity https://www.coindesk.com/why-coindesk-respects-pseudonymity-a-stand-against-doxxing
seems like this is congealing into a story about newspapers and pseudonymity https://www.coindesk.com/why-coindesk-respects-pseudonymity-a-stand-against-doxxing
meanwhile from a reporter at @NBCNews we have this Take
expect this will be the mainline press response: drawing circles around SSC and right folks
the Outgroup is Bad, news at 10 https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1275550404508618752?s=19
expect this will be the mainline press response: drawing circles around SSC and right folks
the Outgroup is Bad, news at 10 https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1275550404508618752?s=19
I dearly wish @RT_com had not written their dumb piece.
meanwhile, local freelance bluecheck maintains remarkable beginner mindset with respect to Journalism And Its Consequences
this is the kind of naive perspective I crave from people with bylines https://twitter.com/MattZeitlin/status/1275554109320503297?s=19
this is the kind of naive perspective I crave from people with bylines https://twitter.com/MattZeitlin/status/1275554109320503297?s=19
just imagine a world without the @nytimes!
I've never unironically promoted a hash before but per @balajis, fuck it, #ghostnyt
https://twitter.com/ChristinaAsquit/status/1275465028137869314?s=19
I've never unironically promoted a hash before but per @balajis, fuck it, #ghostnyt
https://twitter.com/ChristinaAsquit/status/1275465028137869314?s=19
other news: @Scholars_Stage is putting together a letter to NYT. If you fit these criteria and are able to safely sign given your personal circumstances, please consider dropping him a DM https://twitter.com/Scholars_Stage/status/1275538549547372547?s=19
meanwhile, in the case of @davidshor: news about internal dynamics of a journalist listserv
I post to add color re internal dynamics of one journo social space, and extremely not to Own the Libs, please and thank you. This is not a time or place for that https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/06/white-fragility-racism-racism-progressive-progressphiles-david-shor.html?__twitter_impression=true
I post to add color re internal dynamics of one journo social space, and extremely not to Own the Libs, please and thank you. This is not a time or place for that https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/06/white-fragility-racism-racism-progressive-progressphiles-david-shor.html?__twitter_impression=true
Continuing on this point, my impression is that journalism is in some ways a remarkably rarefied and idiosyncratic culture.
When attempting to exert external force on a social space, it's best to have an understanding of its internal dynamics.
(protip for @CadeMetz)
When attempting to exert external force on a social space, it's best to have an understanding of its internal dynamics.
(protip for @CadeMetz)
Here's Scott Aaronson's post on the matter. He's a sweetheart.
https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=4870
https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=4870
. @nytimes may indeed be having a worse month than Scott
wonder how this affects things wrt this story
less organizational dry powder for fighting back?
internal incoherence --> they do something really stupid?
hmmmmmmm https://twitter.com/sarafischer/status/1275567845578084355?s=19
wonder how this affects things wrt this story
less organizational dry powder for fighting back?
internal incoherence --> they do something really stupid?
hmmmmmmm https://twitter.com/sarafischer/status/1275567845578084355?s=19
guys if we can get them to lay off just one more person
wouldnt that be
nice
wouldnt that be
nice
to be clear I would prefer no one be laid off ceteris paribus
I would be delighted if they simply developed a good policy around doxxing people like Scott
still
I will never fail in my duty to the sex number joke https://twitter.com/elmkast/status/1275576132239163393?s=19
I would be delighted if they simply developed a good policy around doxxing people like Scott
still
I will never fail in my duty to the sex number joke https://twitter.com/elmkast/status/1275576132239163393?s=19
on the other hand this also seems better than the baseline of doxxing Scott https://twitter.com/Altimor/status/1275534446368702464?s=19
commentary from writer at @TheAtlantic and something or other at Yale opposing doxxing
otoh, ironical bio,,,,,,,
https://twitter.com/gcaw/status/1275458587414818817?s=19
otoh, ironical bio,,,,,,,
https://twitter.com/gcaw/status/1275458587414818817?s=19
referring earlier to comments re: internal journo comms, I think there is actually significance to these public statements by journalists for forming consensus around standards of practice
consider the effect in your own circles of prominent figures taking such stances openly
consider the effect in your own circles of prominent figures taking such stances openly
nb I have no idea what makes someone prominent in Journalism or what reflects social clout
I assume bylines listed in bios are a somewhat good standin for prestige but I have no idea how to read the particulars
I assume bylines listed in bios are a somewhat good standin for prestige but I have no idea how to read the particulars
these public statements are not cheap signals, either
@robertwrighter and @kausmickey were uneasy about shitting on the Sulzberger family in a @bloggingheads episode a week or two back because of the social/career implications
such stances are potentially costly.
@robertwrighter and @kausmickey were uneasy about shitting on the Sulzberger family in a @bloggingheads episode a week or two back because of the social/career implications
such stances are potentially costly.
and who even watches bloggingheads in 2020!
re internal operation at @nytimes, this would not surprise me at all
unsure how to counter this most effectively
entirely possible criticism makes them double down
hard to say really
https://twitter.com/arachnocapital2/status/1275528687656423424?s=19
unsure how to counter this most effectively
entirely possible criticism makes them double down
hard to say really

https://twitter.com/arachnocapital2/status/1275528687656423424?s=19
hmm
@amber_athey at @SpectatorUSA has a piece
pro Scott natch, rides the privacy angle hard
still not stoked about right media bias in coverage, feels like another bit of partisan war which might be counterproductive https://spectator.us/new-york-times-private-slate-star-codex-blog/
@amber_athey at @SpectatorUSA has a piece
pro Scott natch, rides the privacy angle hard
still not stoked about right media bias in coverage, feels like another bit of partisan war which might be counterproductive https://spectator.us/new-york-times-private-slate-star-codex-blog/
Similarly @dcexaminer
This one is really tiresome honestly. @RT_com tier. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/new-york-times-threatens-to-out-science-blogger-after-protecting-identities-of-white-house-turncoats-and-chapo-trap-house-podcasters
This one is really tiresome honestly. @RT_com tier. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/new-york-times-threatens-to-out-science-blogger-after-protecting-identities-of-white-house-turncoats-and-chapo-trap-house-podcasters