Read on Twitter
Thread. Listen fam, I’m going to be sicker than I already am after publishing this but I have to. You’ll understand why.
The execution by cops of black men can not be blamed on one person; it is systemic.
The cops however, hired someone who it seems was hired to help turn cops
The execution by cops of black men can not be blamed on one person; it is systemic.
The cops however, hired someone who it seems was hired to help turn cops
2. into sociopaths.
His name is Dave Grossman. He’s teaching cops across the nation how to murder people without remorse.
Photo credit: Insider “Do Not Resist”
Article title: “One of America's most popular police trainers is teaching officers how to kill”
His name is Dave Grossman. He’s teaching cops across the nation how to murder people without remorse.
Photo credit: Insider “Do Not Resist”
Article title: “One of America's most popular police trainers is teaching officers how to kill”
3. “He focuses on a concept he's dubbed "killology," or the study of killing, and uses it to teach officers to kill with less hesitation.”
Dave owns the website licensed on this domain. It’s his brand.
Dave owns the website licensed on this domain. It’s his brand.
4. This guy has a selling point for his government sponsored, cop audience.
“Grossman also enticed his audience by noting that killing can lead to great sex.”
He’s selling sex in exchange for murdered bodies.
. @UR_Ninja has picked this Up and reported on it, but apparently
“Grossman also enticed his audience by noting that killing can lead to great sex.”
He’s selling sex in exchange for murdered bodies.
. @UR_Ninja has picked this Up and reported on it, but apparently
5. not enough people have been paying attention. That includes me, which is partially why I’m so disgusted. https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1000509510836981760
6. This killer cop’s training has got him into the White House this February.
Read the post.
Read the post.
7. Here are the people who liked it and share it.
8. These are multi level, multi jurisdiction people in positions of immense power in law enforcement.
9. They include local, City, state and federal government employees.
10. This is one post. It makes me want to wash my hands with a Brillo lad.
11. But it’s only one post. This guy has been hired to do tons of workshops for years.
12. Now read the article. Please. Read it so you can join me in rage. Righteous rage.
(Momentary pause) https://www.insider.com/bulletproof-dave-grossman-police-trainer-teaching-officers-how-to-kill-2020-6
(Momentary pause) https://www.insider.com/bulletproof-dave-grossman-police-trainer-teaching-officers-how-to-kill-2020-6
13. If you have read the article, go back to the last post and re read. This guy has been invited to train cops to kill.
One correction. Those likes etc are actually attributed to this post.
It’s about the hate mail he’s received
One correction. Those likes etc are actually attributed to this post.
It’s about the hate mail he’s received
14. Keeping that same post in mind, here are some comments from his linked in connects. E.g. the people he had trained to kill remorselessly because it will help they fuck each other more passionately.
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17.if these comments don’t make you emotional, after realizing our government has been paying this sociopath to train Pigs to kill us?
18. Here is some previous coverage on this topic from unicorn riot. https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1027345562557919232?s=20
23.
I’m not done posting. But I am done for tonight because I’m upset. I’m upset that this killer cop has trained other killer cops around the US how to murder for better hard-one. His website is literally kilology dot com.
More to come to come tomorrow
I’m not done posting. But I am done for tonight because I’m upset. I’m upset that this killer cop has trained other killer cops around the US how to murder for better hard-one. His website is literally kilology dot com.
More to come to come tomorrow
24. Many have been generous in sharing sourcing from previous podcasts and an article or two about Dave Grossman. I've done some additional research as well. Sorry in advance for the length.
He is selling handguns (Article dated 2020-04-13)
http://archive.vn/6fz2G
He is selling handguns (Article dated 2020-04-13)
http://archive.vn/6fz2G
25. This quote from his book, clearly conveys - if you have no capacity for violence, you are a sheep. If you have the capacity, and empathy - this is what he calls a sheepdog; a warrior. No empathy? Wolf.
Now see his crime "Statistics".
http://archive.vn/Q528B
Now see his crime "Statistics".
http://archive.vn/Q528B
26. Here's Grossman's as a closing quote by Craig Worster - Chief of the Millinocket Maine Police Department.
https://archive.vn/uWXLS#selection-991.0-991.97
Grossman's philosophy (as I read it) re-emphasizing sheepdog mindset. Shared by Daniel Waghelstein former DOJ/NATSEC
https://archive.vn/TxDax
https://archive.vn/uWXLS#selection-991.0-991.97
Grossman's philosophy (as I read it) re-emphasizing sheepdog mindset. Shared by Daniel Waghelstein former DOJ/NATSEC
https://archive.vn/TxDax
27. This article is by Lieutenant Sally Panzer, Federal Task Force.
My interpretation of the idea here is combat PTSD in military & first responders by proactively creating immunity to it.
This could easily be called "Completely Devaluing SOME Lives"
https://archive.vn/vZCMz
My interpretation of the idea here is combat PTSD in military & first responders by proactively creating immunity to it.
This could easily be called "Completely Devaluing SOME Lives"
https://archive.vn/vZCMz
28. This LinkedIn article from a cop dissects & criticizes Grossman's "Approach".
Oh, no kidding. I wonder if their candor is due to locale. This cop isn't American. They're RCMP.
Not an avocation for cops, but perhaps US cops are just worst than most.
https://archive.vn/ZNBeH
Oh, no kidding. I wonder if their candor is due to locale. This cop isn't American. They're RCMP.
Not an avocation for cops, but perhaps US cops are just worst than most.
https://archive.vn/ZNBeH
29. Challenge question: What color is the wolf?
Sergeant Joshua Browne and also "Owner, Heal the Badge Consulting".
Seems there are a lot of these "consultants" offering training and seminars embracing this philosophy. Reads like "death merchant" to me.
http://archive.vn/aD0in
Sergeant Joshua Browne and also "Owner, Heal the Badge Consulting".
Seems there are a lot of these "consultants" offering training and seminars embracing this philosophy. Reads like "death merchant" to me.
http://archive.vn/aD0in
30. From his site. Killology. FML
"KILLOLOGY, (n): The scholarly study of the destructive act, just as sexology is the scholarly study of the procreative act. In particular, killology focuses on the reactions of healthy people in killing circumstances..."
http://archive.is/U7RPT
"KILLOLOGY, (n): The scholarly study of the destructive act, just as sexology is the scholarly study of the procreative act. In particular, killology focuses on the reactions of healthy people in killing circumstances..."
http://archive.is/U7RPT
31. This just gets more disgusting watching capitalism & greed fueling a market to tune down moral compasses for killer cops, while pumping out books, like "Bulletproof Marriage".
Available on? Oh..fuggin Amazon. Ofc.
Oh! Business contact info.
http://archive.is/U7RPT
Available on? Oh..fuggin Amazon. Ofc.
Oh! Business contact info.
http://archive.is/U7RPT
32. "Surprised by the attack on Col. Grossman. His message is nothing like which the agenda-driven media has portrayed." ~Jimmy Meeks "Sheepdog Seminars
Really? Cause that's not what I get from reading years of interpretation of those who subscribe to it.
http://archive.vn/hJVxH
Really? Cause that's not what I get from reading years of interpretation of those who subscribe to it.
http://archive.vn/hJVxH
34. Here's his statement dated 2020-06-02. "2020 so far really sucks!" ~Dave Grossman
It's got a long way to go Dave, because clearly, those lessons which negatively impact your business, haven't turned into reflection & atonement.
#BlackLivesMatter
http://archive.is/VAsTi
It's got a long way to go Dave, because clearly, those lessons which negatively impact your business, haven't turned into reflection & atonement.
#BlackLivesMatter
http://archive.is/VAsTi
35. h/t . @gatheredremains made a few great points
"There needs to be more said on how this dude also wrote “Stop Teaching Our Kids to Kill” which was a major book back then."
Grossman blames Video Game, TV & Movie violence.
Solution: Kill the kids? NO!
http://archive.vn/0X2Xj
"There needs to be more said on how this dude also wrote “Stop Teaching Our Kids to Kill” which was a major book back then."
Grossman blames Video Game, TV & Movie violence.
Solution: Kill the kids? NO!
http://archive.vn/0X2Xj
36. "This is a complete 180, but it exhibits the pathology of suppression.
Militarize the cops, pacify the populace. This is colonial shit."
Mr response: "Straight up Colonial shit." BTW, shared by...? Dave Grossman.
http://archive.vn/tNAqE#selection-1010.0-1010.1
Militarize the cops, pacify the populace. This is colonial shit."
Mr response: "Straight up Colonial shit." BTW, shared by...? Dave Grossman.
http://archive.vn/tNAqE#selection-1010.0-1010.1
37. This is not new by the way. Grossman has been at this for over two decades.
Article below is from the Chicago Tribune 2000-07-25
http://archive.vn/LTOsw
Article below is from the Chicago Tribune 2000-07-25
http://archive.vn/LTOsw
38. Since it sounds like Grossman has really just started to receive some publicity (likely due to outrage), here are some articles from real journalists vs guy with a Twitter acct
The dark vision of “killology” expert Dave Grossman
Mar/Apr - on it early
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/02/dave-grossman-training-police-militarization/
The dark vision of “killology” expert Dave Grossman
Mar/Apr - on it early
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/02/dave-grossman-training-police-militarization/
39. 2020-06-11 from The New Republic
"The Police’s “Sheepdog” Problem"
"Twenty percent of cops are military veterans—and some are fighting to rid policing of fear-based training and a testosterone-fueled culture." https://newrepublic.com/article/158136/military-veterans-police-sheepdog-problem
"The Police’s “Sheepdog” Problem"
"Twenty percent of cops are military veterans—and some are fighting to rid policing of fear-based training and a testosterone-fueled culture." https://newrepublic.com/article/158136/military-veterans-police-sheepdog-problem
40. Deadline. 2020-06-07
‘Last Week Tonight’: John Oliver On How Policing Is Entangled With White Supremacy, Reforming The System And Defunding The Police
PREACH. https://deadline.com/2020/06/last-week-tonight-with-john-oliver-george-floyd-protests-police-reform-black-lives-matter-1202953155/
‘Last Week Tonight’: John Oliver On How Policing Is Entangled With White Supremacy, Reforming The System And Defunding The Police
PREACH. https://deadline.com/2020/06/last-week-tonight-with-john-oliver-george-floyd-protests-police-reform-black-lives-matter-1202953155/
41. ABSOLUTE CONTENT WARNING. This is a deleted scene from 2015 during the production of DO NOT RESIST
This is Grossman speaking at one of his seminars. Note the HORRIFYING quote "Enjoy the killing"
This is Grossman speaking at one of his seminars. Note the HORRIFYING quote "Enjoy the killing"
42. Yahoo News - Canada 2020-05-29
"George Floyd death puts spotlight on 'warrior training' for police"
THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT
"the classes taught to police in Minnesota and the rest of the country by Dave Grossman"
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/george-floyd-death-in-custody-puts-spotlight-on-warrior-training-for-police-195640810.html
"George Floyd death puts spotlight on 'warrior training' for police"
THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT"the classes taught to police in Minnesota and the rest of the country by Dave Grossman"
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/george-floyd-death-in-custody-puts-spotlight-on-warrior-training-for-police-195640810.html
43. From "Some More News" 2019-11-06 h/t . @_techniker
for the recommendation/reference
"How Cops Are Trained To Shoot You In Your Home"
for the recommendation/reference
"How Cops Are Trained To Shoot You In Your Home"
44. Australian news. To each supporting this horrifically violent policing approach:
World news. Look at "ThE gReAtEsT cOuNtRy On EaRtH"
"One of America's most popular police trainers is teaching officers how to kill with fear-based warrior tactics" https://www.businessinsider.com.au/bulletproof-dave-grossman-police-trainer-teaching-officers-how-to-kill-2020-6
World news. Look at "ThE gReAtEsT cOuNtRy On EaRtH"
"One of America's most popular police trainers is teaching officers how to kill with fear-based warrior tactics" https://www.businessinsider.com.au/bulletproof-dave-grossman-police-trainer-teaching-officers-how-to-kill-2020-6
45. h/t . @AnIcarus on the last one, as well as:
"‘Killology’ is not a satirical field: Police Training methods and lethal shootings"
That's the student newspaper at Oxford University. Your kids, our kids, hell, the worlds kids are paying close attention https://www.oxfordstudent.com/2020/06/05/killology-is-not-a-satirical-field-police-training-methods-and-lethal-shootings/
"‘Killology’ is not a satirical field: Police Training methods and lethal shootings"
That's the student newspaper at Oxford University. Your kids, our kids, hell, the worlds kids are paying close attention https://www.oxfordstudent.com/2020/06/05/killology-is-not-a-satirical-field-police-training-methods-and-lethal-shootings/
46. "How is Dave Grossman not a suspect in every murder" ~Hasan Minhaj 2019-09-09 h/t . @80_Hg2
Rips Grossman, covers the murder of Philando Castile, who's killer appears to have been "trained" by Grossman
The Broken Policing System:
Rips Grossman, covers the murder of Philando Castile, who's killer appears to have been "trained" by Grossman
The Broken Policing System:
47. "New Episode: The Man Who Teaches Our Cops To Kill" from @bastardspod w/ @IwriteOK & @jack_obrien
h/t @sncrslyxandra for calling it out https://twitter.com/bastardspod/status/1267498066090680320
h/t @sncrslyxandra for calling it out https://twitter.com/bastardspod/status/1267498066090680320
48. Missed also h/t . @shaylakraze for the podcast recommend above as well.
Now let's get a bit into bio, and supporters.
Now let's get a bit into bio, and supporters.
49. Here's Grossman's LinkedIn bio with experience, skills & endorsements.
Top skills: "Afghanistan" (That. Is. Not. A. Skill. It's. A. Country.)
Industry Knowledge: Command. Military Operations.
With that knowledge, who let him train street cops? ANYONE?
Top skills: "Afghanistan" (That. Is. Not. A. Skill. It's. A. Country.)
Industry Knowledge: Command. Military Operations.
With that knowledge, who let him train street cops? ANYONE?
50. Here's everyone who recommended Grossman for "Afghanistan".
This is one of a few angles someone may start looking at if they wanted to know if cops in their state, city or country had received any of this "training".
This is one of a few angles someone may start looking at if they wanted to know if cops in their state, city or country had received any of this "training".
51. Recommendations (Cont'd)
- Research
- Writing
- Command (Unrelated side note: Bill Mills, Detective at the Pennyrile NARC squad has a Barney AVI)
- Research
- Writing
- Command (Unrelated side note: Bill Mills, Detective at the Pennyrile NARC squad has a Barney AVI)
52. Comments on LinkedIn to his post "Some Threat Letters I have Received"
I can't imagine why that happened...
Take a look at the comments.
I can't imagine why that happened...
Take a look at the comments.
53. Comments on LinkedIn to his post "Some Threat Letters I have Received" (Cont'd)
54. Comments on LinkedIn to his post "Some Threat Letters I have Received" (Cont'd)
55. Comments on LinkedIn to his post "Some Threat Letters I have Received" (Cont'd)
56. Comments on LinkedIn to his post "Some Threat Letters I have Received" (Cont'd)
57. Vicki Haddock via @SFGate 
2006-08-13
THE SCIENCE OF CREATING KILLERS / Human reluctance to take a life can be reversed through training in the method known as killology https://www.sfgate.com/science/article/THE-SCIENCE-OF-CREATING-KILLERS-Human-2514123.php
2006-08-13THE SCIENCE OF CREATING KILLERS / Human reluctance to take a life can be reversed through training in the method known as killology https://www.sfgate.com/science/article/THE-SCIENCE-OF-CREATING-KILLERS-Human-2514123.php
58. Curtis Waltman via @MuckRock 2017-05-09
Infamous law enforcement trainer Dave Grossman is bringing “Killology” to hospitals and high schools https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/may/09/dave-grossman-salem/
Infamous law enforcement trainer Dave Grossman is bringing “Killology” to hospitals and high schools https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/may/09/dave-grossman-salem/
59. @rdevro via @theintercept 2016-10-12
I have received an absolute TON of recommendations to watch this documentary today from responses to this thread.
“Do Not Resist”: The Police Militarization Documentary Everyone Should See https://theintercept.com/2016/10/12/do-not-resist-the-police-militarization-documentary-everyone-should-see/
I have received an absolute TON of recommendations to watch this documentary today from responses to this thread.
“Do Not Resist”: The Police Militarization Documentary Everyone Should See https://theintercept.com/2016/10/12/do-not-resist-the-police-militarization-documentary-everyone-should-see/
60. @rdevro via @theintercept
Oh. Look here. More present day context of police violence and Dave Grossman, sitting right inside that article.
Get the picture.
"Police Attacks on Protesters Are Rooted in a Violent Ideology of Reactionary Grievance" https://theintercept.com/2020/06/06/police-brutality-protests-blue-lives-matter/
Oh. Look here. More present day context of police violence and Dave Grossman, sitting right inside that article.
Get the picture.
"Police Attacks on Protesters Are Rooted in a Violent Ideology of Reactionary Grievance" https://theintercept.com/2020/06/06/police-brutality-protests-blue-lives-matter/
61. @wyattcenac (if you've got the link to that segment from 5/28/2018 you did on Killology/Dave Grossman, would value adding it here - I can't find it anywhere)
Either case, NYT account of the show below. h/t . @JackRNewhouse https://twitter.com/JackRNewhouse/status/1274851204183425024
Either case, NYT account of the show below. h/t . @JackRNewhouse https://twitter.com/JackRNewhouse/status/1274851204183425024
62. Ask and thou shalt receive! Thanks @JackRNewhouse
Aforementioned clip is below, cued up to ~11:50 in the segment.
Aforementioned clip is below, cued up to ~11:50 in the segment.
63. in April of 2013, the Pennsylvania Board of Probation & Parole hosted "The Bullet Proof Mind: Mental Preparation for Combat" seminar. Flyer Below.
It appears there was also one held THIS WEEK on Thursday in Sandy Springs, GA (info below)
It appears there was also one held THIS WEEK on Thursday in Sandy Springs, GA (info below)
64. 2020-01-22 - Aptos, CA, hosted by the Watsonville, PD
2019-01-10 - 01-11: Amarillo College Criminal Justice Department (YOU'RE TEACHING THIS TO COLLEGE STUDENTS???)
2016-04-20 - Raleigh, NC presented to Wake Tech and Atlanta-Carolinas HIDTA
2019-01-10 - 01-11: Amarillo College Criminal Justice Department (YOU'RE TEACHING THIS TO COLLEGE STUDENTS???)
2016-04-20 - Raleigh, NC presented to Wake Tech and Atlanta-Carolinas HIDTA
65. 2019-06-18 - 2019-06-20 - Flint and Holland, Michigan. Point of contact was the US Attorney's office.
2019-06-12 - Hamburg, New York. Hosted by the Northeast Counterdrug Training Center, US Attorney’s Office Western District of NY, Erie County LE & Police Chief's Association
2019-06-12 - Hamburg, New York. Hosted by the Northeast Counterdrug Training Center, US Attorney’s Office Western District of NY, Erie County LE & Police Chief's Association
66. 2018-03-14 Mountain View California - "Proudly presented" by the DEA, Northern California HIDTA and Mountain View Public Safety Foundation.
67. #Killology #KillerCops #AbolishThePolice #F12 #ACAB
Looks like Spokane, WA of all places is the latest to condemn #DaveGrossman - guy who trains cops how to kill w/o remorse.
"Spokane City Council condemns controversial ‘killology’ police training" https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/aug/24/spokane-city-council-condemns-controversial-killol/
Looks like Spokane, WA of all places is the latest to condemn #DaveGrossman - guy who trains cops how to kill w/o remorse.
"Spokane City Council condemns controversial ‘killology’ police training" https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/aug/24/spokane-city-council-condemns-controversial-killol/
68. #Killology #KillerCops #AbolishThePolice #F12 #ACAB Dave Grossman is STILL holding trainings via his company. Killology. https://twitter.com/AntifascistF12/status/1384969011860017155
69. #Killology #AbolishThePolice #F12 #ACAB Dave Grossman is STILL training cops to kill without empathy, across the country. Every level from municipal, county, state & federal.
Painful to watch. But so many NEED to. It's not just systemic. It's intent. https://twitter.com/RzstProgramming/status/1385012391025381377
Painful to watch. But so many NEED to. It's not just systemic. It's intent. https://twitter.com/RzstProgramming/status/1385012391025381377
70. This is SO disturbing, but necessary to listen to in context. This is a sales pitch.
America’s #1 police trainer tells cops that sex after killing another human “is the best sex,” a “very intense sex,” and one of the “perks that come with the job.”
https://twitter.com/RzstProgramming/status/1385274653229285377
America’s #1 police trainer tells cops that sex after killing another human “is the best sex,” a “very intense sex,” and one of the “perks that come with the job.”
https://twitter.com/RzstProgramming/status/1385274653229285377
71. DMCA filed against the damning videos posted by @RzstProgramming, having them pulled offline.
**FAIR USE** given the number of associated police murders and direct applicability to Dave Grossman & Killology.
https://dmca.com/FAQ/Fair-Use https://twitter.com/AntifascistF12/status/1385419080870633475
**FAIR USE** given the number of associated police murders and direct applicability to Dave Grossman & Killology.
https://dmca.com/FAQ/Fair-Use https://twitter.com/AntifascistF12/status/1385419080870633475
72. **FAIR USE** Addendum
Credit goes to Vanish Films, Craig Atkinson for production.
This is a much smaller sample of video than anything originally included and platforming the cop-murder-trainer would be contrary to public interest. https://www.dmca.com/FAQ/Fair-Use
Credit goes to Vanish Films, Craig Atkinson for production.
This is a much smaller sample of video than anything originally included and platforming the cop-murder-trainer would be contrary to public interest. https://www.dmca.com/FAQ/Fair-Use
73. ““Kill without empathy,” and other lessons brought to you by the Killology Research Group, the police training workshop that has been traveling all around the country for years.” https://livingbluetx.com/2021/04/police-training-enjoy-the-kill/
