1) One of the reasons I think #DnD has a problem as a #ttrpg is because it tells you your character is a hero, and then gives you a bunch of violent tools to use against monsters with very little physical or moral consequence...

2) Now I prefer games like #zweihander that are a lot more morally ambiguous, but don't call your characters heroes. You might not be good guys, but you certainly aren't the worst guys. Survival pushes you to do desperate things.

3) In #zweihander and many other games that track morality/humanity, your mental and spiritual state is eroded when you injure, kill, steal or perform other bad deeds. These can lead to mental trauma, nightmares and other things...

4) if you compare #dnd to #zweihander using the same encounter: a cave full of monster-people bothering a town. In d&d they might be orcs, goblins or kobolds; in zweihander they might be mutants or beastmen...

5) In d&d the cleric tells you without doubt they are evil. Your wizard fireballs everything in one game whilst quipping. The fighter cuts heads off, the rogue uses sneak attack. And if you get too roughed up, the cleric heals you. Heroism!

6) In zweihander you get corruption points every time you kill, more if you're brutal or sadistic. A wizard unleashing fire in closed quarters whilst giving a pithy remark- thats worthy of a whole heap of corruption. Everyone you kill might be a face you'll remember forever...

7) yet d&d tells you you're a hero. Excessive force is heroic. You can act with moral certainty. In some circles the young of these creature are just as evil and deserve to be burned alive. Heroic.

8) My point is not that killing humanoids in caves is not a valid part of the game, it is. The difference is d&d cheers you on, whilst zweihander asks "are you sure"? You do bad things in zweihander, its part of the game. But you also get the consequences.

9) Zweihander forces you to think of other solutions before you kill everything. You could get injured, maimed or forever live with the guilt of killing a living thing. But you might have to go through with it anyway. And it won't call you a hero for doing it.