A thread on why Ronaldo is the GOAT ahead of Messi.(Likes and retweetā€™s are appreciated)
(1) UCL
The UCL is considered to be the best club competition in the world and Ronaldo has been the greatest this competition has ever seen.
Ronaldo has won the Champions League the most of all time with 5 and Messi has won the competition 4 times. Ronaldo holds loads of records in the UCL including Most goals,Most assists, Most wins, Most titles and all these extra ones in the image so pretty much every record.
(2) International
Ronaldo has won the euroā€™s and a nations league with Portugal and Messi has never won an international trophy with Argentina. Argentinaā€™s side have also been better than Portugal but Ronaldo has brought 2 trophies to Portugal where Messi has brought none.
Ronaldo carried his team to the final in euro 2016 but a lot of Ronaldo haters try to downplay how good he was in the tournament when Ronaldo had 3 goals and 2 assists in the euros.
Ronaldo was the top scorer of the nations league when Portugal won that. Ronaldo is also one of the only players to ever score in 4 different world cups. Ronaldo has 7 World Cup goals vs Messiā€™s 6 and 3 of Ronaldoā€™s 7 came against Spain in the 2018 World Cup.
Ronaldo is Portugalā€™s top scorer with 99 goals and he is on track to have the most international goals ever
Messi is Argentinaā€™s top goal scorer although he has 68 international goals vs Ronaldoā€™s 99.
(3) Different Leagues.
Ronaldo has played in 3 of the top leagues in the world where Messi has only played in 1. Ronaldo has played in the Premier League in England, the La Liga in Spain and the Serie A in Italy where Messi has only played in the La Liga.
At United Ronaldo won an FA Cup, 3 Premier League titles, a Club World Cup and the Champions League. His individual awards at United include a Ballon Dā€™or, 2 premier league player of the seasons, a premier league golden boot, a European golden boot, a UCL golden boot + FIFA POTY
At Madrid Ronaldo won 4 UCLs, 2 La Ligas, 2 copa del rays and 3 Fifa club world cups. Individually he won 4 Ballon Dā€™ors, 4 Fifa POTYs, 3 UEFA POTYs , 3 La Liga golden boots, 3 European golden boots, 6 UCL golden boots 2 La Liga POTYs and he is Real Madridā€™s all time top scorer.
He moved to Juventus at the start of last season and he has won a Serie a league title and an Italian super cup so far with Juventus. Individually he has also won A Serie A player of the season with Juventus in his first season.
(4) Messiā€™s arguments
These are Messiā€™s arguments for being the greatest of all time:
ā€¢He has 1 more Ballon Dā€™or
ā€¢Heā€™s a better playmaker
ā€¢He has 1 more Ballon Dā€™or
Messi has won 6 ballon Dā€™ors vs Ronaldoā€™s 5 but Ronaldo should also have 6. Everybody knows that Ronaldo got robbed from getting his Ballon Dā€™or in 2018 which went to Modric so Messi and Ronaldo should be equal on 6 Ballon Dā€™ors
ā€¢Heā€™s a better playmaker
I agree that Messi is a better playmaker than Ronaldo.
ā€¢He has a better goal scoring ratio
Messi has a better goal scoring ratio because Ronaldo was playing as a right midfielder for Man Utd in the premier league which is probably the hardest league for 5 years.
Also during that time Ronaldo was still very young and Ronaldo grew into the player he is today after a couple of years where Messi pretty much came into the league as good as he is now.
Messi has been in La Liga for his whole career and in that league Ronaldo played 292 games and has scored 311 goals which means if Ronaldo played in the La Liga for his whole career Ronaldo would have over 900 goalsšŸ¤Æ
(5) Criticism on Ronaldo
ā€œHe only scores penaltiesā€
He has over 600 goals from open play
ā€œHeā€™s finished nowā€
These are his stats this season. I donā€™t even have to say anything else
ā€œHeā€™s a bad playmakerā€
I said that Messi is a better playmaker than Ronaldo but he definitely isnā€™t a bad playmaker.Yes he does less play making now than he used to because heā€™s getting older but he is still very good at it.He was especially really good at it when he was younger
(6)Criticisms of Messi
ā€œHe goes missing in big gamesā€
I disagree with this because yes he has gone missing in big games but he has played unbelievably some of them. Thereā€™s lots of examples where he has performed brilliantly in very big games.
ā€œHe stat pads against bad teamsā€
I agree with this although heā€™s hardly just going to play bad against the small teams like he just does what heā€™s supposed to do. If u disagree with this just look at this from @prfootbaII
ā€œHeā€™s really bad for Argentinaā€
I disagree with this to be honest because yes he hasnā€™t been great for Argentina but heā€™s still been decent. Heā€™s their top scorer and heā€™s had great tournaments but he just choked in the finals of them.
(7) Big Game Player
Ronaldo is considered to be the best or one of the best ā€œbig game playersā€™ by most people and here is why
He is the only ever player to score in 3 different ucl finals and heā€™s the top scorer in ucl finals with 4. Also look at this Image for champions league goals in the quarterfinals semifinals and finalsšŸ¤Æ
Ronaldo nearly always scores in the games against his rivals for example he has 25 goals vs athletico Madrid and 18 goals against Barcelona 2 of his biggest rivals while he was playing for Real Madrid
Thereā€™s too many examples to choose from so I thought I would pick an example from all of his clubs and from Portugal
ā€¢Man Utd: UCL final 2008 Ronaldo scored Unitedā€™s only goal and played unbelievably vs Chelsea to win his first UCL
ā€¢Real Madrid: There is so many to choose from but UCL final 2017 where Ronaldo scores twice and imo itā€™s the best any player has ever played in a ucl finalšŸ”„
ā€¢Juventus: Atletico Madrid second leg of the ucl last year he scored a hattrick to bring Juve back from 2-0 down on aggregate and into the next round
ā€¢Portugal: Euro 2016 semi final where he got a goal and an assist to carry Portugal to the final.
This thread shows why Ronaldo is the goatšŸ”„šŸ˜
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