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quite an interesting thread about how post-Soviet Russia destroyed its own space industry. https://twitter.com/ilyakharlamov/status/1266821702216028162">https://twitter.com/ilyakharl...
interesting things said here:
- there hasn& #39;t been anything interesting made by Russian space industry ever since Yeltsin rule where they barely finished Mir-2 as the part of ISS
- wage for an engineer in the space industry is lower than one of a toilet engineer in McDonald& #39;s
- there hasn& #39;t been anything interesting made by Russian space industry ever since Yeltsin rule where they barely finished Mir-2 as the part of ISS
- wage for an engineer in the space industry is lower than one of a toilet engineer in McDonald& #39;s
- author also describes this as the "curse of $500", where, as he says, the space industry could be saved in the aughts if the engineers were paid $500 of a monthly wage.
- he later compares wages in 2020 with the american space agencies, but that& #39;s for later
- he later compares wages in 2020 with the american space agencies, but that& #39;s for later
- Roskosmos promised in 2012 (when the oil price was high) they& #39;d bring Russia to the top 3 in space field. (OP claims that they& #39;re more likely to compete with the likes of Brazil and Israel)
- Their current project? 200m-wide office building with the mall, flats, and cable cars.
- Their current project? 200m-wide office building with the mall, flats, and cable cars.
- also, according to OP& #39;s judgement, top 5 in 2030 will look like this:
1) US
2) China
3) EU
4) Japan
5) India
1) US
2) China
3) EU
4) Japan
5) India
- ISS was a collaborative project, and it used to be when the US and USSR used to fly to space on each others& #39; spacecrafts. when the Columbia space shuttle crashed in 2003, Russia decided to jack up prices for launching Americans into space from $20 million to $70 million
- Roskosmos exec Dmitriy Rogozin is a journalist by a degree. that, I will add, is like being a minister of cybersecurity without ever touching a computer (looking at you, Japan!)
- Elon Musk once came to Russia for the decommissioned missile parts (as part of their "demilitarisation" program) and offered Russian government a collaborative project to push the space industry forward.
- Russia claims that never happened as those parts were turned into scraps
- Russia claims that never happened as those parts were turned into scraps
- ofc it also might be bc Russia just wanted a much bigger share in the project as they possibly learned abt what he earned from selling PayPal
(cw: police brutality, rape, torture)
- wonder what& #39;s with Russian private space industry?
- there actually were some efforts: Dauria Aerospace and Lin Industrial
- the first got sued for fraud
- the exec of the second was raped and tortured to death in the police department
- wonder what& #39;s with Russian private space industry?
- there actually were some efforts: Dauria Aerospace and Lin Industrial
- the first got sued for fraud
- the exec of the second was raped and tortured to death in the police department
onto wage comparisons for 2020:
- Russian space engineer earns ~22k rubles (~$316) a month
- SpaceX engineer - $12k-14k/mo
- NASA exec& #39;s wage is $232k a year, roughly twice that of the SpaceX engineer
- Rogozin& #39;s wage is ~$450k - twice of NASA exec and 120x of Russian engineer
- Russian space engineer earns ~22k rubles (~$316) a month
- SpaceX engineer - $12k-14k/mo
- NASA exec& #39;s wage is $232k a year, roughly twice that of the SpaceX engineer
- Rogozin& #39;s wage is ~$450k - twice of NASA exec and 120x of Russian engineer
Russia sells RD-180 rocket engine to the US, but it& #39;s
1) a Soviet space part
2) unsustainable for Russia anyway
3) sold to the US for half of its price
1) a Soviet space part
2) unsustainable for Russia anyway
3) sold to the US for half of its price
- Russia& #39;s biggest hurdle in regards to space is, surprisingly, its tsarist past.
- as Baikonur, USSR& #39;s biggest spaceport, went to Kazahkstan, they planned to build their own spaceport at the east of Russia.
- that project is now stalled as ppl who build it don& #39;t receive wages
- as Baikonur, USSR& #39;s biggest spaceport, went to Kazahkstan, they planned to build their own spaceport at the east of Russia.
- that project is now stalled as ppl who build it don& #39;t receive wages
- biggest problem is transportation, as parts have to be delivered to the east of Russia
- most reliable way to do it is by trains
- they have to fit 3.9m diameter to pass through the old tunnels built during Nikolai II
- China& #39;s spacecraft is 10m. SpaceX martian spacecraft is 9m
- most reliable way to do it is by trains
- they have to fit 3.9m diameter to pass through the old tunnels built during Nikolai II
- China& #39;s spacecraft is 10m. SpaceX martian spacecraft is 9m
that& #39;s about it for now but it sounds like OP will write more about it. interesting thread regardless.
