Setting aside all of the wild racist shit (which is a lot) in the Arbery and Floyd murders, there are some basic questions I think people are ignoring about how people should interact with each other and how police should interact with people.

Is it in the public interest to allow private individuals to chase down and confront someone who *they* suspect *was* involved in a non-violent crime, in a public space, with firearms?

Should a police officer, who is not in danger, in the course of detaining someone who is not an imminent threat, kneel on the side of that person's neck for minutes until they become unconscious and die?

I wouldn't think this is actually a difficult question to answer.

I don't really care if Arbery and Floyd were living saints or the wiliest petty crime perpetrators in America. If you think they deserve to be treated as they were, would you apply the same treatment to yourself?

If someone thought you were a thief (without directly witnessing any crime), would you approve of two people from your community confronting you at gunpoint in the street about it? Think of the two people in your community who dislike you the most. It's them.

If a cop wanted to detain you on suspicion of fraud (again, your guilt/innocence are immaterial), would you accept that there's a chance, in the process of being detained, you could be killed? Are you willing to be part of the collateral damage costs of American law enforcement?

If not, why is it all right for other people, for Arbery and Floyd, but not for you?