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Ive been thinking all night about the Karen and reverse-Karen phenomenon, and I’ve come to understand the issue at hand, and why people in America are very, very confused”:
It is about authority.
Who has authority?
Who has the right to tell you what to do?
It is about authority.
Who has authority?
Who has the right to tell you what to do?
Fuck—my thread didnt go through.
Okay, I will summarize.
In a natural sense, only some people have the right to enforce rules or laws on other people.
This is a “law of the jungle” thing.
Teachers have the right to tell students what to do. Police tell the public what to do.
Okay, I will summarize.
In a natural sense, only some people have the right to enforce rules or laws on other people.
This is a “law of the jungle” thing.
Teachers have the right to tell students what to do. Police tell the public what to do.
Bosses tell their employees what to do.
Parents tell their children what to do.
In monkeys, horses, apes, or any other animal, there is a chain of dominance, with only those “above” getting to tell those “below” what to do.
In humans, we afford that privilege to elders.
Parents tell their children what to do.
In monkeys, horses, apes, or any other animal, there is a chain of dominance, with only those “above” getting to tell those “below” what to do.
In humans, we afford that privilege to elders.
The issue of authority is why middle schoolers are such a nightmare. They are still figuring out where their authority ends & others’ begins.
Boys try to shame girls into submission. Girls play power games with eachother & with boys. They make rules & punish outliers.
Boys try to shame girls into submission. Girls play power games with eachother & with boys. They make rules & punish outliers.
Well, that’s the situation we have in America today.
People are unclear where their authority ends and someone else’s begins.
The truth is, whether someone else is breaking a rule or a law, you do NOT have the authority to step in as vigilante.
What you are SUPPOSED
People are unclear where their authority ends and someone else’s begins.
The truth is, whether someone else is breaking a rule or a law, you do NOT have the authority to step in as vigilante.
What you are SUPPOSED
To do when you see someone breaking a law is to FIND AN ACTUAL AUTHORITY.
If you live in an apartment complex, appeal to the superintendent. If you are on the street, find the police.
If you are on a bus, go to the bus driver.
If you’re in a shop, tell customer service.
If you live in an apartment complex, appeal to the superintendent. If you are on the street, find the police.
If you are on a bus, go to the bus driver.
If you’re in a shop, tell customer service.
Are citizen’s arrests technically legal?
Depending on the state and the circumstances, yes.
But would any police officer tell you it’s a good idea? No.
They would tell you that ordering around a stranger could get you shot. And they’d be right.
I grew up in NYC in the 70s
Depending on the state and the circumstances, yes.
But would any police officer tell you it’s a good idea? No.
They would tell you that ordering around a stranger could get you shot. And they’d be right.
I grew up in NYC in the 70s
Telling someone else what to do would get you punched in the face. Or worse.
If you’re not an authority, you’re not an authority. You’re not the person’s mother. Or father. So don’t act like it.
People, quite rightly, get pissed off.
A “Karen” is someone who draws
If you’re not an authority, you’re not an authority. You’re not the person’s mother. Or father. So don’t act like it.
People, quite rightly, get pissed off.
A “Karen” is someone who draws
Her power by acting like she is your mother.
She’s not your mom, but she is acting like it.
This is Wrong. And the behavior is rightly condemned.
But where I disagree with public sentiment is the “reverse Karen,” aka when someone becomes incensed by someone else telling them
She’s not your mom, but she is acting like it.
This is Wrong. And the behavior is rightly condemned.
But where I disagree with public sentiment is the “reverse Karen,” aka when someone becomes incensed by someone else telling them
What to do.
This is where middle school comes in.
Middle aged (white) women are being told they are not everyone’s mom.
Fair enough. They are not.
But “the public” has decided that maybe (as in middle school) if someone is not your mom, they are your bitch.
This is where middle school comes in.
Middle aged (white) women are being told they are not everyone’s mom.
Fair enough. They are not.
But “the public” has decided that maybe (as in middle school) if someone is not your mom, they are your bitch.
Well—no. Just because some lady doesnt have the right to tell YOU what to do does not mean you have the right to tell HER what to do.
No one gets to tell anyone else what to do.
If you want to exert power, go tattle to a teacher. Find a police officer. Call the mayor.
No one gets to tell anyone else what to do.
If you want to exert power, go tattle to a teacher. Find a police officer. Call the mayor.
The reason this is all happening is 1. It’s not fashionable to trust police, or any other actual authority, and 2. The internet has made everyone think they have rights that they Do. Not. Have.
You don’t get to be the moral authority just because you think you are.
You don’t get to be the moral authority just because you think you are.
A lawful, peaceful society requires a chain of command.
You cannot have citizen-vigilantes running around.
This busybody behavior is going to lead to violence.
Because if I told people at the end of my street to stop repairing their car in the graveyard, they say, “Fuck off
You cannot have citizen-vigilantes running around.
This busybody behavior is going to lead to violence.
Because if I told people at the end of my street to stop repairing their car in the graveyard, they say, “Fuck off
Haole. Go back to the mainland.”
And they would be right.
Nomatter that they are breaking the law. *I* do not have the natural, moral right to tell them so.
So, anyway, that is my take.
Everyone needs to start minding their own damned business.
#fin
And they would be right.
Nomatter that they are breaking the law. *I* do not have the natural, moral right to tell them so.
So, anyway, that is my take.
Everyone needs to start minding their own damned business.
#fin
One more:
People believe Internet Lynch Mobs have more authority than our actual legal system.
There’s a reason we have a judge, a jury, a whole SYSTEM of law.
It’s exactly to STOP people from simply enforcing their will on other people.
People believe Internet Lynch Mobs have more authority than our actual legal system.
There’s a reason we have a judge, a jury, a whole SYSTEM of law.
It’s exactly to STOP people from simply enforcing their will on other people.
