One of the biggest lessons I've learned over the past 6 years or so is how so many people just fundamentally cannot grasp the concept of arguing in bad faith.

Like on an intellectual level, people seem to get that lying is a thing that happens but only when dismissing someone as

"lying" is a convenient excuse not to engage with anything they say, or in this sort of Phoenix Wright scenario where lying is something you can catch someone doing because they aren't being clever enough and then their whole evil scheme falls completely to pieces.

But the bread

and butter tactic used by every single group of far right extremists- "I want outcome A, for reason B, but knowing how universally unpopular it is, I will pretend to be actually seeking outcome X, because of reason Y, while actually working towards A" just... bounces the hell off