Thread by @utdred_briank, Sick of seeing opinions based on nothing else but being biased for [...]

Sick of seeing opinions based on nothing else but being biased for whos better between the three so here im going to do a Scholes-Lampard-Gerrard thread which will have in front of you the proof of whos first, second and third. Bare with me as I will be adding to it bit by bit.

Premier League.

Paul Scholes
Premier League Campaigns: 18 1/2
Appearances: 499
Titles: 11
Other finishes: 2nd(x5) 3rd(x3)
Fact: Scholes retired in 2011 but was later brought out of retirement by Sir Alex Ferguson. In 2012 they came second on goal difference and in 2013 they won the 20th title.

Frank Lampard
Premier League Campaigns: 20
Appearances: 609
Titles: 3
Other finishes: 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 14th, 15th.
Fact: Unlike Scholes Lampard moved to City for his last season in England. Chelsea won the league the season he left.

Steven Gerrard
Premier League Campaigns: 17
Appearances: 504
Titles: 0
Other finishes: 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th.
Fact: In the 15 seasons Gerrard has played Scholes his Liverpool have finished a total of 268pts behind Scholes United finishing above them only once in 2002.

Goals

Paul Scholes
Scholes has scored 107 goals in the premier league since his debut having a .21 goals per match contribution. All of Scholes 107 goals have come from open play as he has never been the penalty or free kick taker.

Frank Lampard
Lampard has scored 177 goals in the premier league since his debut having a .29 goals per match contribution. 32 of his 177 goals have been pens while 5 have been free kicks. That would mean that .22 of his GPM contributions are from open play. Scholes (.21)

Steven Gerrard
Gerrard has scored 120 goals in the premier league since his debut having a .24 goals per match contribution. 29 of his 120 goals have been pens while 7 have been free kicks. That would mean that .16 of his GPM contributions are from open play. Scholes (.21)

Break down in the statistics that people jump at straight away without looking into how they're achieved.
Scholes: https://www.premierleague.com/players/336/Paul-Scholes/stats
Lampard: https://www.premierleague.com/players/800/Frank-Lampard/stats
Gerrard: https://www.premierleague.com/players/1575/Steven-Gerrard/stats

Steven Gerrard Statistics | Premier League

View stats of Midfielder Steven Gerrard, including goals scored, assists and appearances, on the official website of the Premier League.

https://www.premierleague.com/players/336/Paul-Scholes/stats

In more successful and better balanced teams the players dont stand out as much as every player is given a job and thats why the team is successful. For example people who jump at the tweet right above this one are the ones that are saying Scholes is the worst of the three.

FA Cup

Paul Scholes
Campaigns: 19
Appearances: 49
Goals:13
Wins: 3
Runners-up: 3
Semi-Final:2
Fact: Scholes has scored in rd3, rd4, rd5, rd6, the semi-final and the final meaning he has scored in every round of the Fa Cup.

Frank Lampard
Campaigns: 20
Appearances: 73
Goals: 28
Wins: 4
Runners-up: 1
Semi-Final: 2
Fact: Lampard has also scored in every round only difference being the name was changed from 6th round to quarter-final.

Steven Gerrard
Campaigns: 17
Appearances: 42
Goals: 15
Wins: 2
Runners-up: 1
Semi-Final: 1
Fact: Gerrard hasnt scored in a Semi-Final meaning hes the only one of the three not to score in every round of the cup.

League Cup

Paul Scholes
Campaigns:19
Appearances: 21
Goals: 9
Wins: 2
Runners-up: 1
Semi-Final: 1
Fact: Scholes Manchester United debut came in this competition where he scored both goals in a 2-1 win against Port Vale.

Frank Lampard
Campaigns: 20
Appearances: 51
Goals: 23
Wins: 2
Runners-up: 1
Semi-Final: 3
Fact: Lampard has scored in every round except the final. He has also scored in the league cup for three different teams.

Steven Gerrard
Campaigns: 17
Appearances: 30
Goals: 9
Wins: 3
Runners-up: 1
Semi-Final: 1
Fact: Liverpool beat Cardiff in 2012 on penalties. Gerrards cousin bottled a penalty in the shootout. It runs in the family.

Champions League

Paul Scholes
Campaigns: 17
Appearances: 130
Minutes Played: 9717
Goals: 25
GPMatch: (.19)
GPMinute: (.006)
Assists: 13
APMatch: (.1)
APMinute: (.001)
Wins: 2
Runners-up: 2
Semi-Final: 3
Fact: Three of the assists and one of the goals were in the qualifying rounds.

Frank Lampard
Campaigns: 12
Appearances: 107
Minutes Played: 8749
Goals: 23
GPMatch: (.21)
GPMinute: (.002)
Assists: 29
APMatch: (.27)
APMinute: (.003)
Wins: 1
Runners-up: 1
Semi-Final: 4
Fact: All of Lampards contributions have come in the Champions League proper.

Steven Gerrard
Campaigns: 9
Appearances: 87
Minutes Played: 6841
Goals: 30
GPMatch: (.34)
GPMinute: (.004)
Assists: 16
APMatch: (.18)
APMinute: (.002)
Wins: 1
Runners-up: 1
Semi-Final: 1
Fact: Three of the assists and nine of the goals were in the qualifying rounds.

Breakdown in Goals

Paul Scholes
Total goals: 25
Penalties: 2
Free Kicks: 0
Open Play: 23

Total Goals per match contributions: (.19)
Total Goals per minute contributions: (.006)

Open Play Goals per match contributions: (.18)
Open Play Goals per match contributions: (.002)

Frank Lampard
Total goals: 23
Penalties: 4
Free Kicks: 1
Open Play: 18

Total Goals per match contributions: (.21)
Total Goals per minute contributions: (.002)

Open Play Goals per match contributions: (.17)
Open Play Goals per match contributions: (.002)

Steven Gerrard
Total goals: 30
Penalties: 7
Free Kicks: 1
Open Play: 22

Total Goals per match contributions: (.34)
Total Goals per minute contributions: (.004)

Open Play Goals per match contributions: (.25)
Open Play Goals per match contributions: (.003)

UEFA Cup/Europa League

Paul Scholes
Campaigns: 2
Appearances: 4
Minutes Played: 194
Goals: 1
GPMatch: (.25)
GPMinute: (.005)
Assists: 0
APMatch: 0
APMinute: 0
Wins: 0
Runners-up: 0
Semi-Final: 0

Frank Lampard
Campaigns: 4
Appearances: 17
Minutes Played: 1474
Goals: 3
GPMatch: (.18)
GPMinute: (.002)
Assists: 4
APMatch: (.24)
APMinute: (.002)
Wins: 1
Runners-up: 0
Semi-Final: 0

Steven Gerrard
Campaigns: 7
Appearances: 42
Minutes Played: 3629
Goals: 11
GPMatch: (.26)
GPMinute: (.003)
Assists: 7
APMatch: (.17)
APMinute: (.001)
Wins: 1
Runners-up: 1
Semi-Final: 0

Breakdown in goals

Paul Scholes
Total goals: 1
Penalties: 0
Free Kicks: 0
Open Play: 1

Total Goals per match contributions: (.25)
Total Goals per minute contributions: (.005)

Open Play Goals per match contributions: (.25)
Open Play Goals per minute contributions: (.005)

Frank Lampard
Total goals: 3
Penalties: 0
Free Kicks: 0
Open Play: 3

Total Goals per match contributions: (.18)
Total Goals per minute contributions: (.002)

Open Play Goals per match contributions: (.18)
Open Play Goals per minute contributions: (.002)

Steven Gerrard
Total goals: 11
Penalties: 2
Free Kicks: 0
Open Play: 9

Total Goals per match contributions: (.26)
Total Goals per minute contributions: (.003)

Open Play Goals per match contributions: (.21)
Open Play Goals per minute contributions: (.002)

Club World Cup/UEFA Super Cup/Intercontinental Cup

Paul Scholes
Tournaments/Finals: 4
Appearances: 4
Minutes: 323
Goals: 0
Assists: 0
Wins: 2
Runners-up: 2

Frank Lampard
Tournaments/Finals: 4
Appearances: 4
Minutes: 327
Goals: 0
Assists: 1
Wins: 1
Runners-up: 3

Steven Gerrard
Tournaments/Finals: 3
Appearances: 3
Minutes: 219
Goals: 1
Assists: 0
Wins: 1
Runners-up: 2

Club Career Overall

Paul Scholes
Appearances: 718
Minutes: 50368
Goals: 155
Assists: 73
Penalties: 3
Free Kicks: 0
Total GPMatch: (.22)
Total GPMinute: (.003)
Open Play GPMatch: (.21)
Open Play GPMinute: (.003)
APMatch: (.10)
APMinute: (.001)
Major Honours: 20
Finals Won: 9
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Lampard
Appearances: 846
Minutes: 67913
Goals: 246
Assists: 173
Penalties: 50
Free Kicks: 12
Total GPMatch: (.29)
Total GPMinute: (.004)
Open Play GPMatch: (.22)
Open Play GPMinute: (.003)
APMatch: (.20)
APMinute: (.003)
Major Honours: 12
Finals Won: 9
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Gerrard
Appearances: 708
Minutes: 57524
Goals: 186
Assists: 129
Penalties: 46
Free Kicks: 10
Total GPMatch: (.26)
Total GPMinute: (.003)
Open Play GPMatch: (.18)
Open Play GPMinute: (.002)
APMatch: (.18)
APMinute: (.002)
Major Honours: 8
Finals Won: 8
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In order from 1-3 I’m going to rate who has played the most as an attacking midfielder in their career. All three dropped further back in the latter years but in their prime this was the order.
1: Lampard
2: Gerrard
3: Scholes

After going through the goal contributions of all three over their club careers it finished as this.
Total.
1st: Lampard (.29 goals per game)
2nd: Gerrard (.26 goals per game)
3rd: Scholes (.22 goals per game)
Going by the above tweet you would say that is a fair result?

But actually after looking into it further both Lampard & Gerrard were taking set pieces for their teams. From open play the stats told a different story.
Open Play.
1st: Lampard (.22 goals per match)
2nd: Scholes (.21 goals per match)
3rd: Gerrard (.18 goals per match)

I didn’t look into the assists but I can safely say if I did a good share of Gerrards & Lampards assists came from set pieces. This was the advantage the two had over Scholes.
1st: Lampard (.20 APG)
2nd: Gerrard (.18 APG)
3rd: Scholes (.10 APG)

When talking about the assists as I said Lampard was the most attacking he got the most assists as that was the job he had. Scholes and Gerrard were more the players who played the pass before the assist. Scholes was the best example of this as he played a quarterback type role.

Scholes has the most accurate long passes out of the three as that was his job. The pass before the assist.

This clip shows how when he was in the final third he usually came away with a goal or an assist.

National Team

In his in preferred position he still managed the same amount of major tournament goals (3) as Lampard & one behind Gerrard. Lampard & Gerrard both missed penalties in the 2006 shootout against Portugal. Scholes qualifies for every tournament when playing. After retiring in 04,

England don’t qualify for the 2008 European finals with the ‘“great Gerrard & very good Lampard” leading them. Since then they exited vs Germany(4-1), Italy(pens) the group stage in the 2014 World Cup. Scholes was approached four times to come out of retirement they were so stuck

and since then Scholes as won 14 trophies with United (asked to come out of retirement to win the league for a 20th time) while the other two have won 17 (between them). Not disrespecting the other two as players because they are both legends of their clubs but Scholes is clear.

This was the Scholes who sulked for England just because he was playing on the left of midfield.

Finishing off this thread I was hearing the statements of ‘Scholes was never in team of the year’ ‘didn’t win player of the year’ and all these type of statements. When it came to the premier league Gerrard had 6 potm while Scholes and Lampard had 4.

If Scholes and Lampard were at Liverpool the same time he wouldn’t of won three quarters of the individual awards. Both Gerrard and Lampard wouldn’t get in Uniteds team over Scholes and Keane. It’s hard to be getting these awards when the whole team was world class at United.

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