James Carville, who led Bill Clinton to the presidency in '92

“Some of the best work being done is some of these Never Trumpers, these former Republicans, the Bulwark, the Lincoln Project. These people are mean. They’re kicking the hell out of you…

James Carville (cont'd)

"That’s what we need. The Democrats don’t have any streak of meanness in them…This kumbaya sh*t ain’t going to work. We’ve got to go after these people.”

What do you think of Mike Pence?

Carville: "Mother!"

There's so much more to this great interview so if you have time, please watch it, it's hysterical.

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