for show that to a fault aims for Objective Straight Shooterism, I couldn't tell if they were having this guy on as a bit or actually thought he wasn't a wingnut when, among other things, he equated "the iraq war was a war for oil" with birtherism
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/politics-podcast-can-covid-19-conspiracy-theories-be-stopped/ https://twitter.com/Tommy_Prieto/status/1262516927949352960

probably my favorite highlight was him saying "no economics textbook will tell you that the 1% control the world" as evidence that that belief, writ large, was farcical tinfoil hattery? anyway this thread seems right on the money https://twitter.com/Tommy_Prieto/status/1262518233128734723?s=20