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3 months of pre-draft research.
3 weeks post-draft research
Ronald Jones is the guy in Tampa and you're drafting his backup over him because of hype. Play with fire, you're gonna get burned.
Let's have a really long, informative chat.
3 weeks post-draft research
Ronald Jones is the guy in Tampa and you're drafting his backup over him because of hype. Play with fire, you're gonna get burned.
Let's have a really long, informative chat.
We first talk about Jones, his production, show some tape, pass protection, and what the coaching staff has said about him for months.
Then we look at Vaughn and everything he is and everything that he's bringing to the table
Make sure you read/watch everything included here.
Then we look at Vaughn and everything he is and everything that he's bringing to the table
Make sure you read/watch everything included here.
2018 Rookie year. Yeah, it was disappointing and bad. The old coaching staff takes an electric player and then runs a cookie cutter offense. Round peg-square hole situation
No one is denying that. But a month ago I ran a poll, over 50% of you said you watched less than
No one is denying that. But a month ago I ran a poll, over 50% of you said you watched less than
2 Buccaneers games last year.
Some quick stats
Last year Jones averaged 4.2 ypc
Barber averaged 3.1 ypc
Jones: 5.1 yards per touch
Barber: 3.4 yards per touch
If you watched at all last year, Jones was miles better than Barber and it wasn't close
Some quick stats
Last year Jones averaged 4.2 ypc
Barber averaged 3.1 ypc
Jones: 5.1 yards per touch
Barber: 3.4 yards per touch
If you watched at all last year, Jones was miles better than Barber and it wasn't close
Film isn't doing it for you? How about these analytics?
Jones is fantastic at creating yards
Derrick Henry was #1 in the league with 1.75 yards created per attempt
Jones followed suit creating 1.72 yards created per attempt
Heres an example
Jones is fantastic at creating yards
Derrick Henry was #1 in the league with 1.75 yards created per attempt
Jones followed suit creating 1.72 yards created per attempt
Heres an example
Jones was 2nd in the league in broken tackles per attempt with .13 per attempt behind Kamara's .16
He was 4th in attempts per broken tackle.
Don't believe me, check for yourself.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/rushing_advanced.htm
Had 230 yards taken away because of penalty. 80+ in this game alone
He was 4th in attempts per broken tackle.
Don't believe me, check for yourself.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/rushing_advanced.htm
Had 230 yards taken away because of penalty. 80+ in this game alone
No one likes hypotheticals, but if the Bucs clean up the penalties next year (they were THE MOST penalized team last year) Jones will have a ton more yards simply over stuff he cannot control.
There's a hatred and notion Rojo can't catch. Again, proof people didn't watch him. But here's a clip of one of the most athletic plays you'll ever see from an NFL player.
Jones was 2nd in the NFL in yards per catch for RBs with 10.1 ypc
31 receptions
1 drop
41 targets
Jones was 2nd in the NFL in yards per catch for RBs with 10.1 ypc
31 receptions
1 drop
41 targets
The people who claim he can't catch didn't watch him, and then for some reason, ignore the stats.
Better yet, all offseason he's grinded his face off to get even better in the passing game. Heres some of that work
https://twitter.com/coachLukeNeal/status/1257412992968220672?s=20 https://twitter.com/coachLukeNeal/status/1259968678080073729?s=20
Better yet, all offseason he's grinded his face off to get even better in the passing game. Heres some of that work
https://twitter.com/coachLukeNeal/status/1257412992968220672?s=20 https://twitter.com/coachLukeNeal/status/1259968678080073729?s=20
Since entering the league he has put on 20 pounds of muscle. You could see it last year towards the end of the year when the light really began to come on. He big, fast, and explosive. Here's another fun example of the power he runs with.
Pass protection. Here's an answer. Can he improve? Yes, but could is also be as simple as learning Bruce Arians offense is as hard as learning Chinese and Calculus at the same time.
It takes time to learn an offense. If you've ever been around the game beyond HS
It takes time to learn an offense. If you've ever been around the game beyond HS
you can attest to this. College offenses are hard. But NFL offenses are insane. Learning blitz pickup in an NFL offense is the hardest thing a RB in the NFL will do.
Its deeper than "oh thats my guy hit him"
There are areas you scan. Zones you feel, bodies flying, etc
Its deeper than "oh thats my guy hit him"
There are areas you scan. Zones you feel, bodies flying, etc
Give him year 2 in that offense and grinding this summer and I think he will be fine. It an issue, but you keep developing as NFL players once you get to the league. He knows its a weakness, he will fix it.
The big argument about Ronald Jones is "that's not Bruce Arian's guy" okay well 2 things.
1. He's Jason Licht's guy. THAT MATTERS
2. Everyone loves Bruce Arians for being ungodly blunt. He didn't believe in Jameis and said "if we can win with that QB we can win with any"
1. He's Jason Licht's guy. THAT MATTERS
2. Everyone loves Bruce Arians for being ungodly blunt. He didn't believe in Jameis and said "if we can win with that QB we can win with any"
Jason Licht AND Bruce Arians all offseason have raved and spoken highly of Ronald Jones.
Here's just 1 article. Can find tons more like it
"We have a lot of faith in Ronald, and in fact, we have more faith in him now that we ever have" https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/buccaneers-ronald-jones-talked-up-by-team-brass/
Here's just 1 article. Can find tons more like it
"We have a lot of faith in Ronald, and in fact, we have more faith in him now that we ever have" https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/buccaneers-ronald-jones-talked-up-by-team-brass/
Ke'Shawn Vaughn. The 76th overall pick in this years draft.
A guy no one was high on. Every team in the league had a 4-5th round grade on.
Someone that many coaches and scouts say is "just a guy"
So, why all the made up love?
A guy no one was high on. Every team in the league had a 4-5th round grade on.
Someone that many coaches and scouts say is "just a guy"
So, why all the made up love?
Well, no one watched Rojo last year and create narratives and cling to them.
Ke'Shawn Vaughn rushed for over 1000 yards while in the SEC (kind of)
Read this real fast
https://twitter.com/FFBallAllDay/status/1259131210057515009?s=20
Big shoutout to @BallBlastEm for her awesome work! Follow her https://twitter.com/BallBlastEm/status/1231309911486795777?s=20
Ke'Shawn Vaughn rushed for over 1000 yards while in the SEC (kind of)
Read this real fast
https://twitter.com/FFBallAllDay/status/1259131210057515009?s=20
Big shoutout to @BallBlastEm for her awesome work! Follow her https://twitter.com/BallBlastEm/status/1231309911486795777?s=20
All the analytics stack up against Vaughn as well.
3rd round RBs rarely hit
5 year college RBs rarely hit
Add those 2 together and yikes.
(Last one was DJ and that's a coincidence) Vaughn is no where near the athlete or prospect. DJ didn't transfer, Vaughn did FWIW
3rd round RBs rarely hit
5 year college RBs rarely hit
Add those 2 together and yikes.
(Last one was DJ and that's a coincidence) Vaughn is no where near the athlete or prospect. DJ didn't transfer, Vaughn did FWIW
There was an article I read 2 weeks ago by either Pewter Plank or another Bucs source where it talked about "why did the Bucs draft Vaughn in the 3rd when he's a day 3 guy?"
The claim is the Bucs panicked while on the clock because they already traded their 4th rounder away
The claim is the Bucs panicked while on the clock because they already traded their 4th rounder away
And they knew they wound not likely get him later? That is more speculation, but where there's smoke there is fire.
(Couldn't relocate article)
They passed on Dobbins, Why? Well, they believe in Ronald Jones. Theyve been saying that all offseason, but needed a backup
(Couldn't relocate article)
They passed on Dobbins, Why? Well, they believe in Ronald Jones. Theyve been saying that all offseason, but needed a backup
They got 1, but with a more premium pick.
Everyone close to that organization believes Vaughn will "compliment Jones IF he can beat out Dare."
He has a mountain to climb and behind an athletic stud with Jones with all the potential in the world. https://thepewterplank.com/2020/04/24/2020-nfl-draft-ronald-jones-biggest-winner-day-2/
Everyone close to that organization believes Vaughn will "compliment Jones IF he can beat out Dare."
He has a mountain to climb and behind an athletic stud with Jones with all the potential in the world. https://thepewterplank.com/2020/04/24/2020-nfl-draft-ronald-jones-biggest-winner-day-2/
Amongst the fantasy community, there is some narrative Vaughn is great at pass-blocking because some numbers somewhere say so.
2 things here.
1. Vanderbilt runs a very vanilla cfb offense. Not too many exotic things going on that you can mess up unlike in TB
2 things here.
1. Vanderbilt runs a very vanilla cfb offense. Not too many exotic things going on that you can mess up unlike in TB
2. Scouts and people who "know their stuff" see things 100% differently.
Instead of me doing the talking, I'll let others do the talking.
2 lines from credible sources talking about Vaughns poor pass blocking ability
https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/keshawn-vaughn/l60u8h9yGy https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1970669
Instead of me doing the talking, I'll let others do the talking.
2 lines from credible sources talking about Vaughns poor pass blocking ability
https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/keshawn-vaughn/l60u8h9yGy https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1970669
You see many people hanging their heads on playerprofilers player comp. They are great, but you can't look at numbers then make comps
Go check out Alvin Kamara player Comp. Then comeback and say you have any faith in their credibility in that department https://www.pewterreport.com/vaughn-doesnt-fix-bucs-running-game-and-thats-okay/
Go check out Alvin Kamara player Comp. Then comeback and say you have any faith in their credibility in that department https://www.pewterreport.com/vaughn-doesnt-fix-bucs-running-game-and-thats-okay/
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