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Mané-Salah-Firmino > Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez
(Look away now nostalgia merchants)
A thread:
(Look away now nostalgia merchants)
A thread:
-10 years apart.
-We’ll be comparing the famous 07/08-08/09 period of the Man United trio, with the 17/18-18/19 period of the Liverpool trio (not including current season as it isn’t finished, and the united trio only spent 2 seasons together).
-We’ll be comparing the famous 07/08-08/09 period of the Man United trio, with the 17/18-18/19 period of the Liverpool trio (not including current season as it isn’t finished, and the united trio only spent 2 seasons together).
First, looking at some raw numbers from the attacking trio& #39;s PL career.
-Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez in the PL 07/08 to 08/09:
Goals: 92
Assists:44
Goals+Assists: 136
-Mané-Salah-Firmino in the PL 17/18 to 18/19:
Goals:113
Assists:44
Goals+Assists: 157
-Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez in the PL 07/08 to 08/09:
Goals: 92
Assists:44
Goals+Assists: 136
-Mané-Salah-Firmino in the PL 17/18 to 18/19:
Goals:113
Assists:44
Goals+Assists: 157
-Now, Liverpool& #39;s trio leads the raw numbers, however the united trio played less minutes of premier league football in their two seasons. 
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Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez in the PL 07/08 to 08/09:
Combined minutes: 14,487
Combined minutes per goal/assist: 107
-Mané-Salah-Firmino in the PL 17/18 to 18/19:
Combined minutes: 16,873
Combined minutes per goal/assist: 107
Combined minutes: 14,487
Combined minutes per goal/assist: 107
-Mané-Salah-Firmino in the PL 17/18 to 18/19:
Combined minutes: 16,873
Combined minutes per goal/assist: 107
-As you can see, across two seasons of PL football, the trios maintained the exact same number of combined minutes per goal/assist.
-However, the raw numbers are in the Liverpool trio& #39;s favour, and keeping up the same ratio despite playing 2,386 more minutes is very impressive
-However, the raw numbers are in the Liverpool trio& #39;s favour, and keeping up the same ratio despite playing 2,386 more minutes is very impressive
-Now, although the united trio kept up when looking at only PL numbers, all competitions prove differently. https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="⬇️" title="Pfeil nach unten" aria-label="Emoji: Pfeil nach unten">
-Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez in all competitions 07/08 to 08/09:
Goals: 140
Assists: 62
Goals+Assists: 202
-Mané-Salah-Firmino in all competitions 17/18 to 18/19:
Goals: 160
Assists: 67
Goals+Assists: 227
Goals: 140
Assists: 62
Goals+Assists: 202
-Mané-Salah-Firmino in all competitions 17/18 to 18/19:
Goals: 160
Assists: 67
Goals+Assists: 227
-Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez in all competitions 07/08 to 08/09:
Combined minutes: 22,367
Combined minutes per goal/assist: 111
-Mané-Salah-Firmino in all competitions 17/18 to 18/19:
Combined minutes: 23,844
Combined minutes per goal/assist: 105
Combined minutes: 22,367
Combined minutes per goal/assist: 111
-Mané-Salah-Firmino in all competitions 17/18 to 18/19:
Combined minutes: 23,844
Combined minutes per goal/assist: 105
-The Liverpool trio once again showing better raw numbers, scoring more goals and getting more assists across the 2 seasons in all competitions.
-And despite playing 1477 more minutes of football, they maintained a better combined mins per goal/assist.
-And despite playing 1477 more minutes of football, they maintained a better combined mins per goal/assist.
-The main reason for the difference in these numbers, were the Liverpool trio& #39;s better performance in the biggest competition in club football, the UEFA Champions League.https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="⬇️" title="Pfeil nach unten" aria-label="Emoji: Pfeil nach unten">
Goals and assists in the UCL 07/08-08/09:
Ronaldo: 17
Rooney: 12
Tevez:8
Goals and assists in the UCL 17/18-18/19
Firmino:23
Salah:22
Mane:18
-Tearing defences apart all across Europe.
Ronaldo: 17
Rooney: 12
Tevez:8
Goals and assists in the UCL 17/18-18/19
Firmino:23
Salah:22
Mane:18
-Tearing defences apart all across Europe.
-Now, for the nostalgia merchants who were planning on spamming "the league and ucl was harder back then".
-The term & #39;harder& #39; when talking about different periods of football is unquantifiable, however I do understand different seasons have different amounts of goals scored.
-The term & #39;harder& #39; when talking about different periods of football is unquantifiable, however I do understand different seasons have different amounts of goals scored.
-There was in fact more goals scored in both the PL and UCL in 17/18-18/19 compared to 07/08-08/09.
-So heres something to even out the numbers of the trio& #39;s a bit, if you& #39;re one of those who isn& #39;t convinced yet.https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="⬇️" title="Pfeil nach unten" aria-label="Emoji: Pfeil nach unten">
-So heres something to even out the numbers of the trio& #39;s a bit, if you& #39;re one of those who isn& #39;t convinced yet.
-PL goals scored from 07/08-08/09: 1944
-PL goals Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez scored from 07/08-08/09: 92
-% of all PL goals scored: 4.7%
-PL goals scored from 17/18-18/19: 2090
-PL goals Mané-Salah-Firmino scored from 17/18-18/19: 113
-% of all PL goals scored: 5.4%
-PL goals Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez scored from 07/08-08/09: 92
-% of all PL goals scored: 4.7%
-PL goals scored from 17/18-18/19: 2090
-PL goals Mané-Salah-Firmino scored from 17/18-18/19: 113
-% of all PL goals scored: 5.4%
UCL goals scored from 07/08-08/09: 659
-UCL goals Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez scored from 07/08-08/09: 26
-% of all UCL goals scored: 3.9%
-UCL goals scored from 17/18-18/19: 767
-UCL goals Mané-Salah-Firmino scored from 17/18-18/19: 43
-% of all UCL goals scored: 5.6%
-UCL goals Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez scored from 07/08-08/09: 26
-% of all UCL goals scored: 3.9%
-UCL goals scored from 17/18-18/19: 767
-UCL goals Mané-Salah-Firmino scored from 17/18-18/19: 43
-% of all UCL goals scored: 5.6%
-So for those with the idea & #39;the league was harder back then& #39;, there& #39;s evidence that the Liverpool trio performed at a higher standard when compared to the goal scoring of the time, in both PL and UCL.
-Another interesting %, to see which front 3 was & #39;carrying& #39; the team more in an attacking sensehttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="⬇️" title="Pfeil nach unten" aria-label="Emoji: Pfeil nach unten">
-Man U goals scored 07/08-08/09: 227
-Goals Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez scored from 07/08-08/09: 140
-% of teams goals: 61.7
-Liverpool goals scored 17/18-18/19: 244
-Goals Mané-Salah-Firmino scored from 17/18-18/19: 160
-% of teams goals: 65.6
-The LFC trio with more & #39;carrying& #39;.
-Goals Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez scored from 07/08-08/09: 140
-% of teams goals: 61.7
-Liverpool goals scored 17/18-18/19: 244
-Goals Mané-Salah-Firmino scored from 17/18-18/19: 160
-% of teams goals: 65.6
-The LFC trio with more & #39;carrying& #39;.
-We& #39;ve seen over the 2 seasons, the LFC trio comes out on top.
-So we could compare the trios best individual season, to see which trio had a better prime.https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="⬇️" title="Pfeil nach unten" aria-label="Emoji: Pfeil nach unten">
-So we could compare the trios best individual season, to see which trio had a better prime.
-Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez in all competitions 2007/08 season:
Goals: 79
Assists: 30
Goals+Assists: 109
Combined minutes per goal/assist: 102
-Mané-Salah-Firmino in all competitions 2017/18 season:
Goals: 91
Assists: 42
Goals+Assists: 133
Combined minutes per goal/assist: 89
Goals: 79
Assists: 30
Goals+Assists: 109
Combined minutes per goal/assist: 102
-Mané-Salah-Firmino in all competitions 2017/18 season:
Goals: 91
Assists: 42
Goals+Assists: 133
Combined minutes per goal/assist: 89
-Best matches for the trio& #39;s in their prime:
Man Utd 6-0 Newcastle
-Ronaldo: 3 goals
-Tevez: 2 goals 1 assist
-Rooney: 1 assist
Total goal contributions: 7
Liverpool 5-2 Roma
-Salah: 2 goals 2 assists
-Firmino: 2 goals 2 assists
-Mane: 1 goal
Total goal contributions: 9
Man Utd 6-0 Newcastle
-Ronaldo: 3 goals
-Tevez: 2 goals 1 assist
-Rooney: 1 assist
Total goal contributions: 7
Liverpool 5-2 Roma
-Salah: 2 goals 2 assists
-Firmino: 2 goals 2 assists
-Mane: 1 goal
Total goal contributions: 9
- A quick fact, All 3 Liverpool players were nominated for the Ballon d& #39;Or and received votes in both 2018 and 2019.
- Tevez didn& #39;t get nominated for the Ballon d& #39;Or in both years.
- Tevez didn& #39;t get nominated for the Ballon d& #39;Or in both years.
-So, the Liverpool trio scored more, it assisted more, both in raw numbers and when looked at minutes played.
-They scored a larger % of their teams goals, and scored a larger % when compared to the PL and UCL average.
-The only reason this even a debate: Nostalgia.
-They scored a larger % of their teams goals, and scored a larger % when compared to the PL and UCL average.
-The only reason this even a debate: Nostalgia.
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