A THREAD: For my brother @al__muhaajirun
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I see at least one person is able to have a civilised discussion without resorting to foul language. However, I see you have tagged in others who I have previously debated with and who have merely replied to me with foul language and persist in mocking the Promised Messiah.
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It's sad that a person who identifies as a Muslim will resort to foul language. The Quran says “to speak nicely to people”. Yet people will continue to ignore.
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The Quran has also said that people will continue to mock the prophets of God. "Alas for mankind! there comes not a Messenger to them but they mock at him" - Ya Sin v.31
This is the nature that the other brothers such as @ILoveJesus75 @JannahsForever @IslaamWins resort to.
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Firstly, the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat was founded in 23 March 1889. If you’ve studied the history of Ahmadiyya then it would’ve been evident to you. I will now reply to the questions raised by this gentleman.
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Though learning Arabic is important, it isn’t enough for a person to simply know Arabic to know the Quran. Otherwise, the whole of Mecca would have believed in the Holy Prophet from the outset. Thus, I’m sure you will agree that God's guidance is what is needed above all else.
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This is why God sent the Holy Prophet so that he can teach them the book and the wisdom behind it. If only knowing Arabic was enough, why didn’t God just send the book???
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You asked about learning Hadith & the Arabic language.
When God sends a messenger, then He Himself teaches him the wisdom & guides. This is not a new allegation; this was raised at the time of the Promised Messiah. Read Khutba Ilhamia (book of Hazrat Ahmad), it will be clear
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It is not necessary for a person who is sent by God to have another teacher to teach him. If so, who taught prophet Adam???
This actually works in favor of Hazrat Ahmad. I believe this also will answer your second question too.
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Here, I’d like to pose a question. Have you read the Tafseer of the Holy Quran of Hazrat Ahmad, of our first Khalifa & second Khalifa (Tafseer Kabeer)?
If yes, then you will surely know that your argument is in-fact baseless. I can send you the books if you desire.
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It is in-fact you who interpret the Quran literally. Volumes and pages have been written on this in Hazrat Ahmad’s books.
A simple example:
- You take verses literally and believe that Jesus physically ascended to the heavens and has not died yet. Do you not??
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I invite you to read this commentary of Sura Al Fatiha. If you feel there is anything you do not agree with then please tell me.
I will wait for your reply on this
https://www.alislam.org/quran/Commentary-on-Surah-Fatiha.pdf
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Your question about 14th century.
Just a simple study of Hadith will show you the Holy Prophet likened this ummat to the Mosaic dispensation.
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The Holy Quran also mentions this:
“Verily, We have sent to you a Messenger, who is a witness over you, even as We sent a Messenger to Pharaoh.”
Here, God has highlighted the similarity of prophet Moses and Prophet Muhammad:
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- Both of these prophets were given a divine law. And a new religious foundation was set by their advent.
- Moses was given the law of the Torah and the Holy Prophet Muhammad was given the Holy Qur’an.
- Both of these prophets were faced with severe opposition.
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Moses he was confronted by the opposition of Pharaoh, who was a powerful and tyrannous ruler. Similarly, the Holy Prophet was faced with the opposition of the great leaders and chieftains of the Quraish, like Abu Jahl for example.
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Another aspect of the Mosaic dispensation is that in the 14th Century. God sent a Messiah to reform the Jews who had forgotten the true teachings of the Torah. His name was Jesus and he was from the Israelites.
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Thus, it was also necessary for a Messiah to be sent in the 14th Century to reform not only the Muslims but the entire world. Furthermore, the Messiah would be a prophet of God and he would be from among the Muslims, just as Jesus was from among the Israelites.
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A study of the Ahadith in which the Holy Prophet (sa) has prophesied the advent of the Messiah (as) also confirms that he would be a Prophet of God288 and that he would be ‘A leader from among the Muslims’.
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“What would be your state when the son of Mary shall descend among you and he will be your leader from among you.’” Bukhari, Kitabul-Anbiya’, Babu Nuzuli ‘Isabni Maryam
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This proves that the same Jesus who appeared 2000 years ago, will not physically descend because in order for the verse under discussion to prove true, and for a similarity to exist between the 2 dispensations, the Messiah of the Muslim Ummah must be from among the Muslims
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My questions to you:
1. Do you believe in the Holy Prophet to be the last messenger?
2. If so, why do you still await the coming of Jesus?

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3. Do you believe Jesus is still alive?
Please explain these 2 verses.
"The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a Messenger; surely, Messengers like unto him had indeed passed away before him....." Al Maidah 76
Here the Quran says all prophet before Jesus have passed away
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And in another place in the Quran
"And Muhammad is only a Messenger. Verily, all Messengers have passed away before him. If then he die or be slain, will you turn back on your heels? ....."
Sura Aal-e-Imran 145
Here it says all prophets before Muhammad have passed away.
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How then do you believe that Jesus is still alive??
I look forward to your reply
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