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Why do all-women movie remakes fail so badly?
Why does every Hollywood action movie since the 90’s have a love interest/family drama in it?
Why is John Wick so popular?
What are the many lessons you can learn from storytelling for men vs women?
Thread https://twitter.com/NielsKnk/status/1259942228857847808
Why does every Hollywood action movie since the 90’s have a love interest/family drama in it?
Why is John Wick so popular?
What are the many lessons you can learn from storytelling for men vs women?
Thread https://twitter.com/NielsKnk/status/1259942228857847808
First, realize that we live our life through stories
Our brains work through story and narratives
The stories we tell ourselves become our reality
This is why it’s so important to understand male vs female storytelling
Because it explains the differences between men & women
Our brains work through story and narratives
The stories we tell ourselves become our reality
This is why it’s so important to understand male vs female storytelling
Because it explains the differences between men & women
There are fundamental differences between how men and women experience stories
Hollywood movies are just one example of this (albeit an obvious one)
The difference can be seen clearly in literature, commercials, friendship, work, love, dating & sex
Important to know this
Hollywood movies are just one example of this (albeit an obvious one)
The difference can be seen clearly in literature, commercials, friendship, work, love, dating & sex
Important to know this
Let’s use 2 well known tv series to explain some things
One for men & one for women
The A-team and The Bold & The Beautiful (TB&TB)
Not the most recent series, I know, but they explain it perfectly
So what are some of the biggest difference between the two?
One for men & one for women
The A-team and The Bold & The Beautiful (TB&TB)
Not the most recent series, I know, but they explain it perfectly
So what are some of the biggest difference between the two?
Character vs Plot:
Men’s series like the A-team are plot focused
There isn’t much character development going on
BA Baracus isn’t going through a slow process of self discovery
Each episode they see a problem → do something smart → guns blaze → problem solved
Story over
Men’s series like the A-team are plot focused
There isn’t much character development going on
BA Baracus isn’t going through a slow process of self discovery
Each episode they see a problem → do something smart → guns blaze → problem solved
Story over
Women’s series are character focused
There’s never that much happening in TB&TB
The focus is on what the characters are experiencing as things happen
The drama of a break up can be smeared out over 5 episodes easily
It’s a continuous story of emotion without a clear plot
There’s never that much happening in TB&TB
The focus is on what the characters are experiencing as things happen
The drama of a break up can be smeared out over 5 episodes easily
It’s a continuous story of emotion without a clear plot
Major difference between the two
Is that the A-team each episode is a clear story on itself
Even if you’ve never watched A-team, you can watch an episode and follow it easily
Can’t do that with women’s series like TB&TB
Every episode is part of a interconnected complex whole
Is that the A-team each episode is a clear story on itself
Even if you’ve never watched A-team, you can watch an episode and follow it easily
Can’t do that with women’s series like TB&TB
Every episode is part of a interconnected complex whole
The number of characters is also vastly different
The A-team has 4 and they are all shallow stereotypes
There’s the muscle man, the smooth guy, the smart leader & the crazy guy
TB&TB has dozens of characters in ever changing lineups
All with personal backstory & development
The A-team has 4 and they are all shallow stereotypes
There’s the muscle man, the smooth guy, the smart leader & the crazy guy
TB&TB has dozens of characters in ever changing lineups
All with personal backstory & development
BA baracus was an angry muscleman in the first episode
He still was the angry muscleman in the final episode
Still with the same catchphrases (I AIN’T GETTIN’ ON NO PLANE!)
In TB&TB there is tons of character development for each character
Sometimes they change dramatically
He still was the angry muscleman in the final episode
Still with the same catchphrases (I AIN’T GETTIN’ ON NO PLANE!)
In TB&TB there is tons of character development for each character
Sometimes they change dramatically
Let’s go through a few more differences
Each point, take a moment for yourself
Think how this difference can be seen in the A-team vs TB&TB
Or in any other man vs woman tv series
(I’m skipping some examples to keep the pace in this thread going)
Each point, take a moment for yourself
Think how this difference can be seen in the A-team vs TB&TB
Or in any other man vs woman tv series
(I’m skipping some examples to keep the pace in this thread going)
Story vs Conclusion:
If you tell a story for men. Focus on the conclusion
If you tell a story for women. Focus on the story
Men want a clear story with a clear conclusion
Women love stories within stories with no conclusion
Character development with no definite plot
If you tell a story for men. Focus on the conclusion
If you tell a story for women. Focus on the story
Men want a clear story with a clear conclusion
Women love stories within stories with no conclusion
Character development with no definite plot
Movies for men often have a clear ending
The world is saved, the end
Not important what happens after that
Women’s story often have implied continuation
They finally get together and their story has only just begun
Women don’t want it to end, they want it to keep going
The world is saved, the end
Not important what happens after that
Women’s story often have implied continuation
They finally get together and their story has only just begun
Women don’t want it to end, they want it to keep going
Linear vs Tangent
Men love linear stories
“Frodo needs to get to the vulcano”
It’s ok if there are side stories (all with their own clear linear path)
But in the end it’s about Frodo → Vulcano
Men don’t want anything added into the story that doesn’t serve this plot
Men love linear stories
“Frodo needs to get to the vulcano”
It’s ok if there are side stories (all with their own clear linear path)
But in the end it’s about Frodo → Vulcano
Men don’t want anything added into the story that doesn’t serve this plot
Women love tangents and substories
Frodo needs to get to the vulcano
But wait, is Aragorn in love with his elvish gf or with the Rohan blonde?
OMG did he just kiss her?
And now he’s getting back with his ex? OH NO HE DIDN’T!
Is anyone still paying attention to Frodo?
Frodo needs to get to the vulcano
But wait, is Aragorn in love with his elvish gf or with the Rohan blonde?
OMG did he just kiss her?
And now he’s getting back with his ex? OH NO HE DIDN’T!
Is anyone still paying attention to Frodo?
See for women the Frodo → vulcano thing isn’t that important
All the character developments and intrigues that happen along the way
Are what is really important for women
In fact there’s a part of women that hopes Frodo never reaches the vulcano
Because then the story ends
All the character developments and intrigues that happen along the way
Are what is really important for women
In fact there’s a part of women that hopes Frodo never reaches the vulcano
Because then the story ends
Intermission:
Movies & books are merely a reflection of how we experience life
How we experience relationships & sex
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Movies & books are merely a reflection of how we experience life
How we experience relationships & sex
Want to learn how to get her addicted to your story & sex?
How to give her what she craves?
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*Back to thread*
Action vs Emotion:
If two people get into a fight in a movie
And one shoots the other
Men are interested in what the consequences of the shooting are for the plot of the movie
Women are interested in how the person feels about having killed someone
If two people get into a fight in a movie
And one shoots the other
Men are interested in what the consequences of the shooting are for the plot of the movie
Women are interested in how the person feels about having killed someone
Men care about what happens
Women care about what people are feeling (as things happen)
Action vs emotion explains why since the 90’s all action movies had love interests/fam drama
Hollywood studios wanted to also tap into the female audience
A one size fits all movie format
Women care about what people are feeling (as things happen)
Action vs emotion explains why since the 90’s all action movies had love interests/fam drama
Hollywood studios wanted to also tap into the female audience
A one size fits all movie format
This also explains why John Wick is such a popular franchise
Men absolutely hate these stupid love interest/family drama side plots that add nothing to the story
For men, the love interest has to be like old school James Bond
Get the job done, get sexy woman as reward
Men absolutely hate these stupid love interest/family drama side plots that add nothing to the story
For men, the love interest has to be like old school James Bond
Get the job done, get sexy woman as reward
Hollywood studios added love interests in an attempt to create an one size fits all concept
Instead they got an one size fits none
John Wick is the only franchise that didn’t include a love interest
Pure action driven plot
Action oasis in a desert of shitty love interests
Instead they got an one size fits none
John Wick is the only franchise that didn’t include a love interest
Pure action driven plot
Action oasis in a desert of shitty love interests
All-female cast remakes of movies try to make women fit into action driven plots
The female audience doesn’t care because the plot is too action driven
The male audience isn’t interested because it just adds more unnecessary drama compared to the original
The female audience doesn’t care because the plot is too action driven
The male audience isn’t interested because it just adds more unnecessary drama compared to the original
John Wick succeeds because it gives one audience (men) exactly what they want
All female remakes fail horribly because they give everyone what they don’t want
All female remakes fail horribly because they give everyone what they don’t want
Clear morals vs Emotionally charged:
Men want clear morals in their stories
The good guys winning over the bad
The hero learning clear lessons
The hero conquering his fear
Any character development has to be an moral evolution
Character development serves the plot
Men want clear morals in their stories
The good guys winning over the bad
The hero learning clear lessons
The hero conquering his fear
Any character development has to be an moral evolution
Character development serves the plot
Women want emotionally charged events
The girl leaving her faithful (but boring) husband
And running off with the thrilling bad boy
Very morally ambiguous
But highly emotionally charged
The plot serves the characters emotions
The girl leaving her faithful (but boring) husband
And running off with the thrilling bad boy
Very morally ambiguous
But highly emotionally charged
The plot serves the characters emotions
Take a moment here to notice how these preferences can clearly be seen in:
- Male vs female friendships
- Male vs female views on dating
- Male vs female experience of sex
- Male vs female workplace behavior
- Male vs female hierarchies
It’s present in everything we do
- Male vs female friendships
- Male vs female views on dating
- Male vs female experience of sex
- Male vs female workplace behavior
- Male vs female hierarchies
It’s present in everything we do
So is it impossible to write stories that speak to both men and women?
No of course not
Many popular series appeal to both male and female audiences
Series like How I Met Your Mother
It is possible to walk the middle road
There are successful compromises
No of course not
Many popular series appeal to both male and female audiences
Series like How I Met Your Mother
It is possible to walk the middle road
There are successful compromises
Stories that appeal both to men and women usually have enough characters for there to be intrigue and drama
But not that many that they seriously distract from the plot
4 to 6 main characters (plus a few recurring support characters) seems to be the perfect amount
But not that many that they seriously distract from the plot
4 to 6 main characters (plus a few recurring support characters) seems to be the perfect amount
It’s a tight rope balance, but it can be walked successfully
Which is unfortunate really
Because it means every Hollywood producer is now trying to walk it
Which is why many modern movies are monstrosities without direction
Which is unfortunate really
Because it means every Hollywood producer is now trying to walk it
Which is why many modern movies are monstrosities without direction
The genre where it’s most difficult to appeal to both men & women?
Romantic & erotic stories
The only successful ones are stories that combine a love story with a violent backdrop
Think Romeo & Juliet or Titanic
We simply experience romance & eroticism too differently
Romantic & erotic stories
The only successful ones are stories that combine a love story with a violent backdrop
Think Romeo & Juliet or Titanic
We simply experience romance & eroticism too differently
Think about it:
What are erotic stories for women like?
They look like 50 shades of Grey
Long stories about a highly emotionally spiked seduction
A rollercoaster ride of emotions with some sex sprinkled in
The suspense is everything, very little actually happens
What are erotic stories for women like?
They look like 50 shades of Grey
Long stories about a highly emotionally spiked seduction
A rollercoaster ride of emotions with some sex sprinkled in
The suspense is everything, very little actually happens
What are erotic stories for men like?
Porn
Simple, to the point, linear
A lot of visual action but with no character development
Emotions play no role in the story
The entire plot is about having as much rough sex as possible and then having the biggest orgasms possible
Porn
Simple, to the point, linear
A lot of visual action but with no character development
Emotions play no role in the story
The entire plot is about having as much rough sex as possible and then having the biggest orgasms possible
Conclusion:
These are some of the biggest differences in what men & women value
Not just in stories but also in life, in friendships, dating and sex
If you want to learn how to create erotic stories that will make women come back for more
Check out: https://gumroad.com/l/euIWP
These are some of the biggest differences in what men & women value
Not just in stories but also in life, in friendships, dating and sex
If you want to learn how to create erotic stories that will make women come back for more
Check out: https://gumroad.com/l/euIWP
If you have any questions or would like to know more about certain parts of this thread, ask them below and I might expand the thread based on your tweets
For now, use this thread to both understand yourself, your gender & the opposite sex better
Niels
For now, use this thread to both understand yourself, your gender & the opposite sex better
Niels
@DentesLeo Here you go, the thread I promise you last night
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