And there we have it.
'A complex topic'

and thats the problem for those of us who think it isn't particularly complex at all. One group wants to deny the rights of another group. At the same time by denying reality.

This isn't 'complicated' at all. https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1259745803356135430

What is confusing and obfuscatory is of course the knots people tie themselves in trying to deny the truth of what I assert above. I appreciate that is complicated. But it isn't the debate. Its a way people try to dodge it.