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diy is oddly toxic as a "community". most of the people within the community are great on their own but i think the group brings out the worst in people sometimes.
diy has done lots of good and i don't want to discredit that, and for the record nothing specific happened (1/?)
diy has done lots of good and i don't want to discredit that, and for the record nothing specific happened (1/?)
but sometimes it really feels to me like a contest of who can one-up each other on which cool underground bands they like or how woke and socially conscious they can be. social consciousness is a 100% positive thing but the constant need to tweet about how much better you are 1/?
makes it feel a lot less genuine. the retweeting of graphic videos or insane conspiracy theories just so you can dunk on them doesn't make you some hero, it feels like exploiting those events and people for RTs and likes. again for the record: this isn't a dig at anyone specific
it's not a specific person that i saw do something, this is just something ive seen both within and outside of diy and its been getting under my skin
i am also sick of the double standards people give to the dumbass art vs artist debate. please at least be consistent. i dont have any real firm position on it other than "don't give money to shitbags" but it annoys me seeing constant posts about how bad it is to listen to X band
...and immediately posting about another band with shitty people in it as if nothing's wrong. there's no difference between listening to like, brand new and led zeppelin or whatever. either be consistent in your messaging or stop trying to preach
i want abusers the fuck out of this scene just as much as everyone else does and i'm not saying "it's morally good to support jesse lacey", just please... if you preach no exceptions, you should mean it
i personally don't listen to abusers and i don't really have anything to say on the topic other than just... either be consistent or admit you have complex views. it's a complex topic and nobody should blame someone for not having all the answers
anyways, i love diy and i want it to grow and be a place with less dumb infighting and judgey exclusion of people who don't fit the perfect mold of "diy". i love the scene i just wish it was a more mature space for people to have discussions rather than immediate judgements
im very bad at phrasing things so if anything i said in this thread sounded incoherent or offensive, please reach out and ill explain my views and talk ! i welcome discussion and ik this is a really rambly thread i made while sleep deprived that goes all over the place
much love to all of you, i just had this on my mind and wanted to get that out somehow
