you can tell how carried zoner mains are based on the matchup ratios they think they have with characters with reflectors or absorbing moves
anytime a wii fit or samus tell me they think ness wins because they can’t just throw out their broken neutral b w/ no brain cells without repercussions, i just know
anytime i see a zoner say they lose to falco -2 or worse i know they don’t have fundamentals