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TRIGGER WARNING : this thread is gonna have mentions of ab*se, st*rvation, and d*ath
since why don& #39;t we went on break, there& #39;s been a lot of talk surrounding their management and whether the boys chose to go on break. me and kay got interested in this and decided to look deeper to find out who& #39;s really behind all of this, and sure enough, we got answers.
after extensive research and fact checking, we concluded that their manager is randy phillips, someone who isn& #39;t well known in the why don& #39;t we fandom, but is known in the music industry. we were shocked at some of the information we found out about this person.
this thread goes way deeper than a boyband& #39;s social media break. the boys are being managed by an untrustworthy person, and we& #39;re concerned for them. this thread is NOT to defame randy/their managements character. we will only be using FACTS, court documents, and other websites.
everything mentioned in this thread is public information. i& #39;m simply just summarizing it all to spread awareness. THIS THREAD IS MADE OUT OF CONCERN, NOT TO DAMAGE ANYONE& #39;S REPUTATION/CAREER.
with that being said, let& #39;s get started.
SECTION 1: PROOF THAT RANDY STILL MANAGES WHY DON& #39;T WE
you might be wondering how we know this is 100% their manager. we made sure to check the facts so that we know we didn& #39;t bring an innocent person into this mess (SKIP TO SECTION 2 IF YOU DON& #39;T NEED PROOF).
you might be wondering how we know this is 100% their manager. we made sure to check the facts so that we know we didn& #39;t bring an innocent person into this mess (SKIP TO SECTION 2 IF YOU DON& #39;T NEED PROOF).
1. these are screenshots from news articles where randy says that he manages the boys. the first one was from august 23, 2017 and the second one is much more recent, from september 5, 2019. (via https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=308038&title+NEW-MODEL-BOY-BAND">https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&... and https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/touring/8529198/randy-phillips-steps-down-livestyle-ceo-managing)">https://www.billboard.com/articles/...
2. this is more associated with eben, but he signed with atlantic records last july and randy was in eben& #39;s zoom call last week (not my screenshot). eben also mentioned in a live stream last month that randy chooses what eben& #39;s appearance is. this means randy ALSO manages eben.
SECTION 2: MANAGEMENT MISTREATING WHY DON& #39;T WE/EBEN/GABBIE
sadly, there has been proof that management doesn& #39;t treat the boys well. we& #39;re not 100% sure if randy is behind every decision in these following tweets, so we& #39;re just gonna assume it& #39;s their whole management.
sadly, there has been proof that management doesn& #39;t treat the boys well. we& #39;re not 100% sure if randy is behind every decision in these following tweets, so we& #39;re just gonna assume it& #39;s their whole management.
1. jonah marais posting about the industry pushing him to starve himself. jonah posted this on august 18, 2019. jonah also stated that he is healthy now, but the fact that it happened in the first place is concerning. the photo is how he looked in 2018.
2. on october 18, 2019, daniel tweeted "i& #39;m tired of being told what to do" and deleted it right after. he definitely wouldn& #39;t tweet this for no reason.
3. this one& #39;s about eben. eben did a live stream and said that he had to shave and proceeded to say it wasn& #39;t his choice. if you listen you can hear him say "randy if you& #39;re watching this, this is for you m*therf*cker" (not my screen recording). randy& #39;s controlling.
4. this is a new piece of information that came up yesterday. gabbie gonzalez (jack avery& #39;s rumored ex girlfriend) posted a tiktok of stuff she& #39;s been through. one of the screenshots is a text from someone saying she would& #39;ve been forced to get an abortion if she told wdws+
management that she was pregnant sooner because it could& #39;ve "ruined the boys image". when gabbie told them she was pregnant, it was too late for them to make her have one. she also couldn& #39;t announce HER OWN child when she wanted. these are from her tiktok.
5. why don& #39;t we& #39;s break
there& #39;s been multiple sides to whether the boys chose to go on this social media break or not. the boys have been liking posts on social media and have even been liking fan posts. there& #39;s also many hints they wanna come back but this is a rumor for now.
there& #39;s been multiple sides to whether the boys chose to go on this social media break or not. the boys have been liking posts on social media and have even been liking fan posts. there& #39;s also many hints they wanna come back but this is a rumor for now.
6. why don& #39;t we can& #39;t apologize for their actions. we all know that the boys have had scandals before and they haven& #39;t apologized. this isn& #39;t them being careless people, it& #39;s that their management doesn& #39;t want even more attention brought to it. there has been videos of the boys+
at limelight talking about how they can& #39;t address things. when zach was asked at limelight about the cheating rumor, he said he would never do that and that he wasn& #39;t allowed to talk about it.
SECTION 3: WHY DON& #39;T WE BEING A MONEY PROJECT
this isn& #39;t confirmed, but it& #39;s most likely that their management doesn& #39;t care about them as people and that they only care about the money they bring in. this is why they choose how the boys look and act, so they can attract a+
this isn& #39;t confirmed, but it& #39;s most likely that their management doesn& #39;t care about them as people and that they only care about the money they bring in. this is why they choose how the boys look and act, so they can attract a+
target audience. this would explain why they don& #39;t want ANYTHING to impact the boys career such as gabbie being pregnant, the boys looking a certain way, and even them saying things that management doesn& #39;t like. when #atlanticrecordisoverparty started trending, many fans+
began accusing them of using wdw for money. here& #39;s a screenshot of an article from february 2, 2018 where the boys are referred to as a "project" (via https://www.pollstar.com/article/why-dont-we-proves-the-sum-of-its-parts-can-be-more-than-the-whole-when-it-comes-to-social-media-marketing-134437)">https://www.pollstar.com/article/w...
THIS NEXT SECTION IS WHERE WE& #39;RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE LEGAL STUFF - RANDY GOING TO COURT AND BEING SUED IN THE EARLY 2000S. THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART OF THE THREAD.
i reached the thread limit, i& #39;ll add the serious legal stuff after this sends
SECTION 4: RANDY BEING UNTRUSTWORTHY AND AB*SIVE
1. randy phillips got sued in the early 2000s and was accused of being associated with michael jackson& #39;s death. there& #39;s many videos of him testifying at court, here& #39;s one i attatched. people say that he knew something was wrong with michael. https://youtu.be/YgoXztxYeAk ">https://youtu.be/YgoXztxYe...
there& #39;s also rumors that he had something to do with michael jackson& #39;s doctor who was rumored to have given him a drug that k*lled him. even adult music lovers from YEARS ago, know that randy had something to do with this and they know he& #39;s a bad person.
here& #39;s comments from a youtube video of randy in court. as you can see, many people don& #39;t trust him, and they know he was lying in the interrogation. keep in mind, these are adults, not fangirls. these comments also sum up what happened.
2. randy isn& #39;t trusted by MAJOR names in the industry. he was fired by lady gaga, usher, justin timberlake, and lionel richie because he was suspicious. this screenshot is from an article made on september 10, 2012 (via https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=288105&title+Randy-Phillips-incriminating-emails)">https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&...
3. randy was ab*sive to michael jackson. in an interview, he actually ADMITTED to it. here& #39;s what he said (via https://www.cnn.com/2013/06/10/showbiz/jackson-death-trial/index.html).">https://www.cnn.com/2013/06/1...
also i forget to tell y& #39;all that the only reason he got off the case was because he had money!!
EVERY. SINGLE. THING. IN THIS THREAD HAS BEEN FACT CHECKED. THE ONLY THING ANYONE CAN ARGUE AGAINST IS THE STUFF THAT SAYS RUMORS. COURT DOCUMENTS AND QUOTES DON& #39;T LIE. this means that not even wdw, eben, or management can deny it
in case anyone doesn& #39;t know, evy used to date ryan herron (zach& #39;s brother) and here& #39;s what she said.
more comments describing peoples dislike for randy
