Long WWX thread ahead:

I am supposed to edit these to be a proper tweet but until I do, I will just leave it like this:

So yes, with all due respect,Q question, just where did the concept of WWX being crude, impolite or a simpleton come from? Where? Are we sure that's the same-

WWX? THAT WWX!?

That's just going with the typical polite guy and rebellious crude bad boy you see in manga (sorry) and wangxian aren't like that?? WWX is no where like that?? They're both on the same page when it comes conduct!--

It's practically part of their character setting by now no matter the universe.

Wangxian are both polite and elegant in their own style thank you very much. They're both educated people. "Masters" of six arts which mannerism is part of. They're both taught etiquette.

WWX IS THE "HEAD DISCIPLE" for the love of wangxian.

Even WWX himself is attentive when it comes to mannerism and you see him either telling JC, the juniors, etc. several times when it comes to conducting themselves or getting out of line, i.e. being rude.

He's the fun teacher but he still won't coddle ppl rotten as well because it won't bring positive results and he knows it.

The only time you hear LWJ say something to Wei Ying about etiquette (?) is when he tells him to sit right in the Library Pavilion, i.e. like LWJ sits--

and that's it?

Wei Ying was only sitting in a comfortable way like how ppl normally do but for high-class families it's inappropriate otherwise I don't remember much else.

Cursing: He doesn't even curse. No he doesn't. The only time he did in the novel as far as I remember--

, in a very justified situation, was in the Xuanwu cave and LWJ didn't even scold him.

Even as a child, in the audio drama, you can just see how sweet he is and polite, despite living in the streets for 4 years since he was 5 and just getting to know the world. He could have--

easily become bad then without anyone to guide him but he didn't.

Even if he doesn't remember his parents, HE REMEMBERS THEIR TEACHINGS.

Oh and: in another part of the audio drama we have him telling us how he wants his child to grow if he ever had one, I forgot the exact--

words but bright and like a polite&well-mannered LWJ No.2. He holds so much respect _(:'3

I.e. like our Sizhui-er.

Calling him crude, brash, impolite, etc. is the same as when Jin Zixun called him "son of a servant" back on Mt. Phoenix. Why? Because:

1) He is insulting his lineage&his family as if servitude is something dirty even though he was born long after his father left LP OFFICIALLY thus no longer is a servant but a FREE MAN.

2) Implication that he is UNEDUCATED and looks down on him even though he's a rspectable disciple of a renowned sect and not just any disciple but the HEAD DISCIPLE. WWX didn't get this position by luck or favouritism, HE WORKED HARD FOR IT. Remember where he was before this--

until he got there.

3) Wei Ying didn't just study the six arts but he also became a MASTER of the six arts and not many ppl of noble families or cultivation sects can! JZX practically stepped at that fact&it's an insult to the Jiang family/sect that taught him as well.

4) guess who also was part of his teaching in his childhood? The one who took care of him the most? Jiang Yanli, his ShiJie. That's telling him he had no one to teach him. Looking down on all that. Dismissing all that is just like treating him like dirt! And you see how he--

dealt with himself after he told Jin Ling that at Mt. Dafan. (Apologised to JL later!)

You can also see how he changes his approaches with the kids depending on the situation (basically going teacher mode) so they learn.

No one is as strict on WWX than WWX himself. The more he grew, the more you see that. From his playful teenage self, to his twenties, to when he came back. WWX is EXTREMELY strict with himself and many ppl (adults&ppl his age or otherwise) failed to see that.

Wei Ying has qualities in each age but he grows as time goes by. Just bec some things don't show, doesn't mean they don't exist in each.

Wei Ying might look friendly but he's polite, respectful and humble. It would do to look at his many actions and especially the small ones--

(some are small enough to dismiss as mundane but are not!). Don't look at things from surface POV bec he's a very complex character.

Just bec some words look like a tease or, with all due respect, as popular "dumb" doesn't mean that they are! There's a lot to WWX's words and--

they hold weight. Even though WWX speaks a lot, other than his ShiJie&later LWJ, no one truly listened closely or paid attention to them. He also said that ppl either twist his words, ignore them or turn them into lies (not exact wording but in this sense).

Please have a look at these here:

https://twitter.com/levieray/status/1252660335007477760?s=19

https://twitter.com/BigBadRedPanda/status/1163918461606780928?s=19

https://twitter.com/entropyibo/status/1189583209438175232?s=19

https://twitter.com/Yue_wangxian/status/1241467432738402305?s=19

(There's more but my bookmarks are a mess)

Also at lovely Mina's powerful threads:

https://twitter.com/minahomine/status/1258874779857121281?s=19 https://twitter.com/minahomine/status/1167838868315394048?s=19

WWX as a gentleman towards ladies:

https://twitter.com/HikaLicky/status/1250971726932041729?s=19

https://twitter.com/axiomatiqq/status/1251176618418229249?s=19 https://twitter.com/Yue_wangxian/status/1250973527995494407?s=19

Also remember the flowers in Mt. Phoenix&in YunMeng? Or when he saw LWJ in Yiling? Those were all attempts from him like "are we good now? Can we be friends? Let the bygones be bygones?" He has no need to let his relationship be strained with the man he respects&shares similar--

morals as him.

He also apologised to LWJ whenever their "conversations" went awry&thanked him for his concern. Their partings might have not been that nice but they weren't bad either.

(Would their have been a good talk if LWJ didn't bring up "come back to Gusu" right away?--

Possibly. Look at the Yiling outing as an example. It's trial and error.)

(There's that time after the Xuanwu when JC's parents fought. He didn't stay quiet with JC but told him to "sit so they talk". Yes, he was 17(?) Then)

He also shows to be a good host. You see it when--

he allows LWJ in BM when WN awakened. He's not the type to want his guests to be uncomfortable.

Being a tease/playful doesn't mean one is rude, crude or disrespectful or dumb. And If you so want to put a word to his playful actions, we can use at--

least "dork" for "dorky actions".

I don't know where the idea of Wei Ying being dumb in anything but textbook stuff or him being crude seriously. Is it like, looking at LWJ and thinking Wei Ying in comparison is otherwise? LWJ would take offense at this, not kidding

I myself sometimes particular about conduct but I didn't feel any rudeness or crudeness from Wei Ying when I first got into MDZS and he wasn't my favourite character yet (I had none then) even though it wasn't the original Chinese text.

I thought it showed even in the translation??

And you see how he goes about dealing with ppl socially and handling sticky situations so well without the need of help from other characters??? He's not just smart and observant in cultivation stuff!

He's also not a chaotic kid in need of being on leash with someone he can handle himself quite well and he knows what situations he is in!

That's all clear in the novel.

The only other character who can match him when speaking smartly with a silver tongue is JGY?

As my friend put it, for JGY: "he's certified expert in that. Though more at out-talking people than actually being smart" (when it comes to speaking!)

He's also not someone who will make his emotions out in the open for the world to see 24/7, he's probably as hard to read--

there as Er-gege. If he was such a simpleton, it would have been game over from him long ago

Not in Er-gege's style, but he's a pretty composed person (did you see at the situations he was in&the ppl he dealt with since he lost his parents? Anyone would have lost their--

mind dealing with all that!) and the only times we see him angry is one someone insults or hurts someone important to him. Even as a teen (and teens tend to get angry quickly often. Even Lan-Er used to :D) he rarely did so when Jin Zixuan smeared JYL's honour in CR, the--

disciples, as described, were very surprised so see an angry WWX bec they never did (probably never expected either!)

So I need to shout this, excuse me but: WHERE DID THIS "WEI YING IS DUMB AND SUCH A SIMPLETON" COME FROM-- *inhale**exhale*

I am sorry but It's not even always cute, and I love cute Wei Ying who is actually smart, logical, practical and observant.

Don't strip him of the main parts of himself please--

This is just... All his hard work and the life he lived.... Flung out of the window just like that

Speaking of hard work.... I don't believe in the notion of him not having to work for his studies and other things

Like, even as a genius, the genius will have to see the content first, even if once, to know what's going on No matter the universe

Especially if you see how he came to be in canon, he had a lot to catch up on. And he wouldn't get his position if he didn't work for it nor will stay in it if he just idles.

Have a look at this thread if you would like : https://twitter.com/Yue_wangxian/status/1202720385919340544?s=19

Did I mention how much I dislike this concept: WWX doesn't even have to study or work hard to get what he gets.

His brain will still has to think for whatever things he works on to happen + he will have to experiment and study things to get a result. Even if he doesn't have--

to put as much work as a normal person, it doesn't mean he doesn't work or try. He does. You see this shine in his teaching to the juniors too! Urging them to work hard!

But this "working hard" is something that I want to speak of separately so I am stopping here

Oh and, when it comes to his teen self with LQ, there a lot of sides to look into before passing judgment (yes, I also plan to talk about this another time) and saying WWX is the only one at fault.

Apologies again and I hope I didn't insult anyone take in mind that this wasn't written with such purpose in mind!

Thank you for putting up with me

Oops... Can't believe I forgot this:

wangxian are both basically educators. They would never do too explicit things in front of the juniors or teach them misconduct (or cursing) as I have mentioned above.

Wei Ying was known as Head Disciple by 15 so his teaching career--

possibly started there. And in Incense Burner extra, in the dream, we have 17yr old LWJ teaching.

They started early and improved as years went on + the experience they gained + their meeting each other that helped boost their life experiences&how they act.

Teaching is sacred--

bec they are basically teaching the next generation.

Okay, I will shut up for real now

Seeing this part of the manhua reminded me of this as well: paper!Xian bowing _(:'3 (who allowed him to be this polite, cute and sweet?)

He bowed to NMJ's head as a sign of respect before doing empathy to the late sect leader.

He was also pretty angry at his past self in--

empathy bec no matter if he was in a bad mood or otherwise he should have still held on to his manners no matter the circumstances&how justified it was. That's of the reasons he wanted to punch his past self.

As I said before no one is as strict on WWX than WWX himself _(:'3

Another thing that slipped my mind Shino talked about this a while back:

WWX has always careful and considerate in his manners&conduct whenever he lives with someone else under their roof.

1) when he was brought back to LP.
2) when he brought the Wens to BM to--

protect them. He made sure to keep a distance from them bec even if he saved them back then, they were still fearful so he didn't want to cause them discomfort. Thus gave them space.

3) after he married LWJ&Gusu/Lan clan became his new home/family. He's careful, polite--

and considerate in how he presents himself (but not in a way he's suffocating). The sect took to him&had him teach not just bec he's LWJ's spouse but also bec of how he conducted himself (especially given that WN has Lan members' bl**d on his hands from the past--

when he went to hand himself with his sister at Koi Tower&WN lost control giving the Jins a chance to drag the previously neutral Land into the fray).

## there's also that time in YunMeng when WWX saw LWJ&was about to call him "Lan Zhan" but quickly remembered they are in--

public thus quickly switched to "HanGuang-Jun" as a sign of respect to LWJ.