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MARC ELIAS??
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MR. GowDY: okay. where do you currenily work? How about we start there?
MR. ELIAS: I'm a partner at the law firm perkins coie
in washington
MR. ELIAS: I'm a partner at the law firm perkins coie
in washington
MR. GOWDY: Who is Tom Perez's predecessor?
MR. ELIAS: His immediate predecessor was Donna Brazille, and his predecessor before that was Congresswoman Wasserman Schultz'
MR. ELIAS: His immediate predecessor was Donna Brazille, and his predecessor before that was Congresswoman Wasserman Schultz'
MR. GOWDY: How did you come to hire Fusion GPS?
MR. ELIAS: I came to hire them - they approached me & indicated that they might be a good fit for doing work to support the legal efforts of my clients.
MR. ELIAS: I came to hire them - they approached me & indicated that they might be a good fit for doing work to support the legal efforts of my clients.
MR. GOWDY: When you say they approached me, who is "they"?
MR. ELIAS: They were Peter Fritsch and Glenn Simpson.
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MR. ELIAS: They were Peter Fritsch and Glenn Simpson.
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MR. ELIAS: So they told me that they had been retained by
a -- previously -- by a wealthy Republican - they didn't identify who : to do research on then candidate Trump --
a -- previously -- by a wealthy Republican - they didn't identify who : to do research on then candidate Trump --
and they had done a lot of research on Trump --
and thought that if I was going to be looking to hire a consultant to help me advise the campaign on issues relating to Trump, that they would be a good fit
and thought that if I was going to be looking to hire a consultant to help me advise the campaign on issues relating to Trump, that they would be a good fit
dropping this here.. perkins coie https://twitter.com/17thOps/status/1255450284794535938?s=20
pdf for Sussman too..
Interview Transcript of Michael Sussman (December 18, 2017) [PDF] Added on 5/8/2020
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/CPRT-116-IG00-D078.pdf
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Interview Transcript of Michael Sussman (December 18, 2017) [PDF] Added on 5/8/2020
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/CPRT-116-IG00-D078.pdf
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Back to Elias.
MR. GOWDY: You used the word research. What do you mean by research?
MR. ELIAS: I didn't know what they had - they were describing what they had done for this Republican wealthy individual. So I didn't -- I wasn't privy to it.
MR. GOWDY: You used the word research. What do you mean by research?
MR. ELIAS: I didn't know what they had - they were describing what they had done for this Republican wealthy individual. So I didn't -- I wasn't privy to it.
They were telling me that they had done a research project for this wealthy Republican.
Had you ever hired Fusion GPS before?
MS. RUEMMLER: You can answer that.
MR. ELIAS: I had not.
MS. RUEMMLER: You can answer that.
MR. ELIAS: I had not.
MR. GOWDY: And you wound up hiring a Company you'd never hired before. And my question is, whY?
MR. ELIAS: So I think there were a couple of things that went into it. The first, like I said, was they had familiarity with then candidate Trump.
MR. ELIAS: So I think there were a couple of things that went into it. The first, like I said, was they had familiarity with then candidate Trump.
MR. GOWDY: Well, let me stop you there. How did you know that?
MR. ELIAS: Because they told me that they had familiarity with then candidate Trump because they had been working on a research project up until that point for an unnamed wealthy Republican
MR. ELIAS: Because they told me that they had familiarity with then candidate Trump because they had been working on a research project up until that point for an unnamed wealthy Republican
MR. ELIAS: I think I understood that their research included researching - that involved his business holdings and lawsuits, which were the principal topics that I would have been interested in, knowing what they -- what their - how
familiar they were with him.
familiar they were with him.
MR. GOWDY: Okay. You met Peter Fritsch and Glenn Simpson.
They told you they'd been doing research for a wealthy Republican.
ELIAS: Yes.
They told you they'd been doing research for a wealthy Republican.
ELIAS: Yes.
MR. GOWDY: I guess what I'm getting at is what was your stream of money with which to retain them?
Where did that come from?
MR. ELIAS: The money with which to retain them came from the Clinton campaign, Hillary for America, called the Ctinton campaign, and the DNC.
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Where did that come from?
MR. ELIAS: The money with which to retain them came from the Clinton campaign, Hillary for America, called the Ctinton campaign, and the DNC.
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MR. GOWDY: Here, let my try to demystify it 
MR. GOWDY: Which is great if you're paying the bill, you can do what you want. I presume you weren't spending your own money.
MR. ELIAS: Correct.
MR. GOWDY: All right. Whose money were you spending?
MR. ELIAS: Right. so I was spending the campaign's and the DNC's.
MR. ELIAS: Correct.
MR. GOWDY: All right. Whose money were you spending?
MR. ELIAS: Right. so I was spending the campaign's and the DNC's.
MR. GOWDY: Right. And my question to you was, were you authorized up to a certain dollar amount to consult no one other than yourself?
MR. ELIAS. I now understand
MR. ELIAS. I now understand
So with respect to this particular project, I consulted with Robby Mook, who was the campaign manager, to get budget approval to be able to spend money in
order for me to retain consultants.
, who was the campaign manager, to get budget approval to be able to spend money inorder for me to retain consultants.
This was the consultants that I retained, but I
didn't need to consult on the identity of the consultants.
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didn't need to consult on the identity of the consultants.
refresh, back to this again
MR. GOWDY: All right. And how much money did Robby Mook approve you to spend?
MR. ELIAS: I'm going to do the best I can by memory here. lt is all on FEC reports.
But my recollection is that initially it was a total of $60,000 split between the campaign and $60,000 split 30 and 30 between the campaign and the DNC.
But my recollection is that initially it was a total of $60,000 split between the campaign and $60,000 split 30 and 30 between the campaign and the DNC.
thinking out loud.. (soz)
Perkins Coie is KEY to BOTH Fusion GPS & Crowdstrike.
Elias & Sussman - Perkins Coie
Admitted payments from CF & DNC- Robby Mook
Initial approach by FUSION GPS - Peter Fritsch/Glenn Simpson.
Prev retained by a "wealthy Republican"
)Perkins Coie is KEY to BOTH Fusion GPS & Crowdstrike.
Elias & Sussman - Perkins Coie
Admitted payments from CF & DNC- Robby Mook
Initial approach by FUSION GPS - Peter Fritsch/Glenn Simpson.
Prev retained by a "wealthy Republican"
MR. GowDY: Now, were you paying, was that 30-30 split for work that had already been done by Fusion GPS? was that a retainer for them to do additionalwork?
What was the 60,000?
What was the 60,000?
MR. ELIAS: lt was to provide the information that I requested or needed in order to do what I needed to do.
So it was not -
So it was not -
GOWDY: All right. so if I have the right picture in my mind, Fusion GpS is trying to interest you in work they've already done
without violating that client's confidentiality,
but at same time entice you enough that you are
interested in retaining them yourself. ls that fair?
without violating that client's confidentiality,
but at same time entice you enough that you are
interested in retaining them yourself. ls that fair?
MR. ELIAS: I think that's more or less fair, yeah
MR GOWDY: But yet you'd never hired Fusion GPS in the past. So there are plenty of other people who do this exact same kind of work.
MR. ELIAS: Uh-huh.
MR. GOWDY: So why Fusion GpS this time?
MR. ELIAS: Uh-huh.
MR. GOWDY: So why Fusion GpS this time?
MR. ELIAS: They were -- they had approached me.
They had a background in it. They were recommended, you know. They were thought highly of in the community
They had a background in it. They were recommended, you know. They were thought highly of in the community
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MR. GOWDY: And you needed it in every other election that you'd ever been part of, and yet you managed to muddle your way through all of those elections without ever hiring Fusion GPS.
MR. ELIAS: True.
MR. GOWDY: So why now?
MR. GOWDY: And you needed it in every other election that you'd ever been part of, and yet you managed to muddle your way through all of those elections without ever hiring Fusion GPS.
MR. ELIAS: True.
MR. GOWDY: So why now?
MR. ELIAS: I could say the same thing. They had - they approached me and seemed to have a background in a very complex --
MR. GOWDY: Let me tell you what I hear when you say that, and perhaps there's just a disconnect.
They approached you.
MR. GOWDY: Let me tell you what I hear when you say that, and perhaps there's just a disconnect.
They approached you.
MR. GOWDY: But it doesn't get much bigger than Presidential. And you hired a firm you'd never hired before, based on a meeting where they said they
have quote, "research."
& we've defined research as bankruptcies and court
filings that you could have hired a law clerk to go find
have quote, "research."
& we've defined research as bankruptcies and court
filings that you could have hired a law clerk to go find
.
MR. ELIAS: So as I said, it was based on their reputation in the community, recommendations, and -
MR. GOWDY: Recommendations from whom?
MR. ELIAS: So as I said, it was based on their reputation in the community, recommendations, and -
MR. GOWDY: Recommendations from whom?
MR. ELIAS: One of my partners had recommended them to me as a firm that had done good work in his experience and that they had a good reputation.
(is this partner/colleague Sussman?)
(is this partner/colleague Sussman?)
MR. GOWDY: All right. So I think we're up to $60,000. What is the total amount of money that Perkins Coie paid Fusion GPS?
MR. ELIAS: I know it's in the letter we -- I don't remember the --
MR. GOWDY: l won't hold you to it. Just give me a ballpark. More than $60,000?
MR. ELIAS: I know it's in the letter we -- I don't remember the --
MR. GOWDY: l won't hold you to it. Just give me a ballpark. More than $60,000?
MR. ELIAS: I think it was -- well, it was -- l'm sorry, $60,000 a month.
MR. GOWDY: $60,000 a month.
MR. ELIAS: I'm sorry, yes. lt was 30 and 30 per month.
MR. GOWDY: So $60,000 a month, What was the duration of -
MR. ELIAS: And then plus expenses
MR. GOWDY: $60,000 a month.
MR. ELIAS: I'm sorry, yes. lt was 30 and 30 per month.
MR. GOWDY: So $60,000 a month, What was the duration of -
MR. ELIAS: And then plus expenses
MR. GOWDY: What was the duration of that agreement
MR. ELIAS: lt was some time in the spring.
MR. GOWDY: OkaY.
MR. ELIAS: I want to say maybe April, but that could be off a month one way or the other. And it ended in - at the end of October.
MR. GOWDY: OkaY.
MR. ELIAS: I want to say maybe April, but that could be off a month one way or the other. And it ended in - at the end of October.
MR. GOWDY: So May, June, July, August, September, October'
MR. ELIAS: I think April, I think April. I don't know, maybe.
MR. ELIAS: I think April, I think April. I don't know, maybe.
MR. GOWDY: All right. so 7 months times $60,000. l'll let you help me with the math there.
MR. ELIAS: I went to law school.
MR. GOWDY: $400,000 and something, Himes, is that close?
MR. HIMES: lt's close.
MR. GOWDY: Alt right. So we're not quite close to the million.
MR. ELIAS: I went to law school.
MR. GOWDY: $400,000 and something, Himes, is that close?
MR. HIMES: lt's close.
MR. GOWDY: Alt right. So we're not quite close to the million.
MR. ELIAS: Right.
MR. GOWDY: Where is the other half of it, those expenses?
MR. ELIAS: Yes.
MR. GOWDY: Where is the other half of it, those expenses?
MR. ELIAS: Yes.
