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The GOP believes it is
tyranny when a government takes steps to save lives, and
good government when the wealthy get tax breaks.
That's because the GOP is the party of hierarchy.
They don't believe fairness and equality are possible.
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tyranny when a government takes steps to save lives, andgood government when the wealthy get tax breaks.That's because the GOP is the party of hierarchy.
They don't believe fairness and equality are possible.
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Hierarchy people think there's a natural order. Some people belong on top. Others belong at the bottom.
For them, the purpose of government is to allocate power. When they are in power, they try to grab more. They cynically assume everyone sees government this way.
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For them, the purpose of government is to allocate power. When they are in power, they try to grab more. They cynically assume everyone sees government this way.
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Fairness folks believe equality is possible, so for them, the purpose of government is to create fairness, to give everyone equal opportunity, and to prevent cheating.
Hierarchy people don’t like “rules” or regulations.
Fairness people understand that rules create fairness.
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Hierarchy people don’t like “rules” or regulations.
Fairness people understand that rules create fairness.
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Yup, for decades, the GOP has done a good job masking its ideology.
They cloaked it in pretty word and dressed it in lies.
They knew without the lies, they'd never cobble together a majority.
https://twitter.com/BroncoStrada/status/1256745703495340033
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They cloaked it in pretty word and dressed it in lies.
They knew without the lies, they'd never cobble together a majority.
https://twitter.com/BroncoStrada/status/1256745703495340033
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That's why they've spent decades building a propaganda network.
Without the propaganda (if history and political psychology is our guide) they'd have about 33% of the population.
That's the number that seem to naturally gravitate toward right wing nationalist parties.
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Without the propaganda (if history and political psychology is our guide) they'd have about 33% of the population.
That's the number that seem to naturally gravitate toward right wing nationalist parties.
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Hierarchical people see democratic government as giving handouts to those who don’t deserve it and hampering people who can get things done.
When hierarchical presidents go to work, they think about how to maintain the hierarchy—with them at the top.
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When hierarchical presidents go to work, they think about how to maintain the hierarchy—with them at the top.
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When democratic presidents go to work, they try to figure out how to make life better for people (like setting up panels to deal with pandemics)
This person quibbled with my use of the word “hierarchy”
You can see my response.
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This person quibbled with my use of the word “hierarchy”
You can see my response.
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I tried to explain that not government is not just about allocating power.
It's about creating fairness.
He responded with a comment so cynical that it made me shudder
He doesn't believe there are any historical examples of "fairness" governments.
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It's about creating fairness.
He responded with a comment so cynical that it made me shudder
He doesn't believe there are any historical examples of "fairness" governments.
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Hierarchy people know that any political actions they take have one goal: To increase their own power and beat back anyone trying to encroach their power.
Because they don't believe in fairness or equality, they think all people see government as a way to power.
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Because they don't believe in fairness or equality, they think all people see government as a way to power.
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That's why they always think they are victims. They believe everyone else is trying to displace them in the hierarchy.
They feel victimized by people demanding equality, because they don't believe in equality so they think people want to displace them.
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They feel victimized by people demanding equality, because they don't believe in equality so they think people want to displace them.
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Sorry about this brief interlude.
I have to pause because I've been called away from Twitter for about another hour.
I'll try to read through the comments before resuming.
Meanwhile, some humor https://twitter.com/sarahcpr/status/1256337915405389826
I have to pause because I've been called away from Twitter for about another hour.
I'll try to read through the comments before resuming.
Meanwhile, some humor
https://twitter.com/sarahcpr/status/1256337915405389826
I'm back...
https://twitter.com/realJOELP/status/1256752372899917826
I've also talked about the differences as authoritarian v. non authoritarian.
Now I find that the hierarchy v. democracy-equality paradigm explains more and better fits the facts.
(is "paradigm" the right word?)
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https://twitter.com/realJOELP/status/1256752372899917826
I've also talked about the differences as authoritarian v. non authoritarian.
Now I find that the hierarchy v. democracy-equality paradigm explains more and better fits the facts.
(is "paradigm" the right word?)
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For example, seeing the distinction as hierarchy v. equality explains the GOP obsession with abortion, which comes down to a woman's "place" in nature.
https://twitter.com/corriewatterson/status/1256751257038934017
The hierarchy-power v. equality-fairness distinction comes from the study of fascism.
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https://twitter.com/corriewatterson/status/1256751257038934017
The hierarchy-power v. equality-fairness distinction comes from the study of fascism.
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According to experts in fascism 
fascism isn't an ideology, it's a set of tactics for maintaining power.
Fascism assumes a hierarchy. 21st century fascism (oligarchy) is all about hierarchy.
I'm trying to get to something else: The ideology behind the grab for power.
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fascism isn't an ideology, it's a set of tactics for maintaining power. Fascism assumes a hierarchy. 21st century fascism (oligarchy) is all about hierarchy.
I'm trying to get to something else: The ideology behind the grab for power.
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And then someone will come along and prove my point about cynicism and hierarchy
If I say, "FDR was a fairness president," a hierarchical person will say, "Whatabout the Japanese internment camps?"
Whataboutism is used by hierarchy people to prove fairness doesn't exist.
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If I say, "FDR was a fairness president," a hierarchical person will say, "Whatabout the Japanese internment camps?"
Whataboutism is used by hierarchy people to prove fairness doesn't exist.
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Mussolini said, "Democracy is beautiful in theory. In practice it’s a fallacy."
When you don't believe democracy is possible, it's all about power and who can grab it. What results is a hierarchy.
Fascism is about power and hierarchy.
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When you don't believe democracy is possible, it's all about power and who can grab it. What results is a hierarchy.
Fascism is about power and hierarchy.
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https://twitter.com/MightyPrytanis/status/1256755094663684096 Thanks, Dave
Fairness is an ideal that we work toward. There's never been complete fairness partly because there are always such strong forces working against fairness.
There are some comments about empathy . . .
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Fairness is an ideal that we work toward. There's never been complete fairness partly because there are always such strong forces working against fairness.
There are some comments about empathy . . .
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Fairness people are stunned that anyone would compare a government order in a pandemic to close businesses to a Nazi death camp.
The GOP offers a false dilemma: Either we all go back to work or the economy collapses and people starve.
There's a third option of course.
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The GOP offers a false dilemma: Either we all go back to work or the economy collapses and people starve.
There's a third option of course.
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The third option is that the government reallocates resources and uses the vast resources of the US to make sure nobody is hungry and everyone can get through this pandemic.
But the Trump-GOP won't do this.
They won't even take steps to get testing.
https://twitter.com/Teri_Kanefield/status/1253375925544091649
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But the Trump-GOP won't do this.
They won't even take steps to get testing.
https://twitter.com/Teri_Kanefield/status/1253375925544091649
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Part of the reason is because government action to help people goes against their ideology.
The best historical comparison that I can think of is President Hoover, who, during the Great Depression, thought the government should do nothing.
So he did nothing.
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The best historical comparison that I can think of is President Hoover, who, during the Great Depression, thought the government should do nothing.
So he did nothing.
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A lot of people died.
Hoover lost the next election in a landslide and we got FDR, a fairness president(who I know a little bit about).
He gave us social security, minimum wage, a 40 hour work week, protection for workers, and the GI bill.
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Hoover lost the next election in a landslide and we got FDR, a fairness president
(who I know a little bit about).He gave us social security, minimum wage, a 40 hour work week, protection for workers, and the GI bill.
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Yes, it's frustrating to be living through a pandemic with a president who is 10 times worse than Hoover.
One thing we learn from FDR is that winning elections by large margins allows us to make rapid changes.
That's why we all have to focus on November.
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One thing we learn from FDR is that winning elections by large margins allows us to make rapid changes.
That's why we all have to focus on November.
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22/ Yes, exactly
Fairness people—watching the GOP try to reopen before providing protection—are tearing their hair anger and with frustration: How can they be so cruel? Can't they see the vulnerable will suffer?
Hierarchy people, on the other hand. . . https://twitter.com/writeon1/status/1256942434472386561
Fairness people—watching the GOP try to reopen before providing protection—are tearing their hair anger and with frustration: How can they be so cruel? Can't they see the vulnerable will suffer?
Hierarchy people, on the other hand. . . https://twitter.com/writeon1/status/1256942434472386561
23/. . .think nature will take its course, or it will be "God's will," or "of course people with more resources can make it through this more easily." Or "Pence doesn't have to worry. Meat packers do. That's life."
Good question
Answer: Both . . . https://twitter.com/sootiju/status/1256911436300922880
Good question
Answer: Both . . . https://twitter.com/sootiju/status/1256911436300922880
24/ All through US history, fairness people opposed the hierarchy people.
If we'd had all fairness people writing the Constitution, there would have been no slavery.
Hamilton said without that compromise, there would have been no union.
Jim Crow was hierarchical.
If we'd had all fairness people writing the Constitution, there would have been no slavery.
Hamilton said without that compromise, there would have been no union.
Jim Crow was hierarchical.
Here is this thread as a blog post: https://terikanefield-blog.com/tyranny-v-good-government/
Yes, definitely. https://twitter.com/akpeacerunner/status/1258162103506132993
I think for some, it's brainwashing. For others it's fear. For some it's probably hardwired, but I tend to think anyone can be reached.
Not before November, though. Don't wear yourselves out! The election will be won with voter turnout.
I think for some, it's brainwashing. For others it's fear. For some it's probably hardwired, but I tend to think anyone can be reached.
Not before November, though. Don't wear yourselves out! The election will be won with voter turnout.
Are you asking why I say "GOP" instead of "Republican Party" ?
Twitter's character limits.
Republican Party: 16 characters
GOP: 3 https://twitter.com/fhoedem/status/1262490954029817862
Twitter's character limits.
Republican Party: 16 characters
GOP: 3 https://twitter.com/fhoedem/status/1262490954029817862
Thank you for this article: https://twitter.com/malinablue/status/1294411179272613888…
It entirely supports the arguments I make in this thread, doesn't it?
It entirely supports the arguments I make in this thread, doesn't it?
