This interview is a gift bc it traces how all these writing communities were interconnected. When we think of how to build lit communities, this is how you do it https://aaww.org/exit-west-ishmael-reed-rishi-nath/

also this quote "to move ahead on the right, you have to take down black ppl, it’s part of their initiation. So Andrew Sullivan...a white nationalist who supports gay rights, made his reputation taking down black people..That’s how these neo-cons started, jumping on blacks. "

@GabrielJBump buffalo gets its props