My personal experiences with non-transsexual autogynephiles & their connections to MtF transsexual communities. A Thread:

Most people associate the word autogynephilia with trans women, but it is an often overlooked fact that many, infact perhaps most autogynephiles are non-transsexual, I.E, they don’t transition, usually never will, retain a male social position & keep it generally, a secret.

I would like to preface by stating that I don’t think all non-exclusively androphilic trans women are by definition autogynephilic, I think there is more complex & varied phenomenon at work there. Nor do I think autogynephilia is inherently bad in anyway. Now then, for the juice.

My first vivid personal contact with a (self proclaimed) AGP was during a vacation to the US. On my travels I befriended a man we’ll call, “Jake”. Jake was masculine, exceptionally charismatic & classically handsome. He had a strong presence & was often complimented on his looks.

I at the time, was pre-transition but already heavily considering it as an option, so to Jakes knowledge, I was simply a fem gay boy. Jake was unquestionably straight in his attitude & sexual behaviour. We would hang out often & he hooked up with women easily & frequently.

Jake & I would hang out often, drink, travel & have long conversations about life, relationships, and society. I acknowledged that he was handsome, but he wasn’t my type frankly & I considered him not within my options anyway being pre-transition & him being straight.

Jake was generally quite interested in my experiences as a gay boy at the time. I didn’t think that was odd, I’ve found many people, men included are interested in the topic especially if they come across someone willing to talk about it openly, frankly & with humour.

Near the end of my stay, Jake sat me down & said he had a secret to tell me he had never revealed to ANYONE before. I wasn’t sure what he was going to say or if it was even serious & not just him fucking with me. He said: “I’ve fantasized about being a woman since 13”.

I spent the first 60 seconds responding with: “You’re Fucking with me right? You’re trolling Jake, come on, really?” He was the sort of man that I think NO ONE would suspect of such fantasies. He was completely serious. “No, I mean it, I figured you would understand” he said.

After that we had a long conversation about it where I mainly listened. At this point of our heart to heart I felt it would be appropriate to reveal I was infact trans & planning a transition. He seemed relieved & understood. “Ha, I thought you were a tranny when I first saw you”

Me telling the poor guy I was trans however, brought on a heavy side of the topic. He communicated that he had been & was, very afraid that he was trans and that his urges, which ebbed & flowed through the years, would become too powerful to conceal. “It would ruin my life”

I reassured him, I told him that he shouldn’t draw any conclusions just yet & should seek professional help & consider what he really wants in life, and that I would be supportive of him whether he decided to transition or not and both options could work out for him.

I‘ve kept in contact with Jake since we went our seperate ways a few days later. Jake sought out a specialist & never transitioned or revealed his secret to more than a handful of people. However, funnily enough he did reveal that he had attempted to fuck me at one point.

One time he asked if I wanted to spend the night with him to “hang out”. Because he was straight & he had given me zero reason to suspect he might be open or into that, I said no casually. “You seemed basically like a girl to me, so I thought experimenting could be fun” he said.

There is a common correlation between autogynephilia & gynoandromorphophilia. I.E, an attraction to mostly pre-op trans women & some naturally extremely feminine men. Indeed, all of my close interactions with autogynephiles consisted of them expressing attraction to me & TW.

And oh boy, if you’re here for some (educational) smut get ready for the next one because that’s all it was. A few months into my transition, I met a guy on Tinder, we’ll call him Zack. Zack was similar to Jake, very manly, chararismaric, handsome, but slightly more my type.

We met at a bar spontaneously at midnight, and we spent the whole night drinking, flirting & talking. Obviously the guy was interested & was made aware I was trans (as all my dates ever have) beforehand. We ended up in his bed & literally messed around until the sun came up.

I liked Zack, he was incredibly good in bed. We met up a few more times & it was mainly us drinking, taking various substances & having loads of sex. I did developed a little case of dickmatism, the physical aspect was so good I developed a crush on him.

One night he asked me to guess his “secret” fetish. He said “it’ll be hard to guess” I thought hard, & because of his similarities to Jake, I answered nervously: “Crossdressing?”

I was right. He revealed he had a long history of crossdressing & loads of sex while doing so.

He went on & on about the specifics of his kink & how he wanted to include me quite badly. I was dissapointed as this kinda dropped a rock on my desires for him. It ended up not working out for various reasons but after he had revealed his secret, he kept trying to “persuade me”.

But in doing so he revealed more & more detail. He loved the idea of becoming a woman momentarily, & experiencing sex that way. He showed me explicit pictures of himself sucking a bunch of guys off while crossdressing, despite being exclusively into females & MtFs.

“I just like how I can feel like a dirty slut you know?” He expressed no desire to transition, stating it would suit him more as a secretive outlet. Zack would on more than a few occasions randomly send me explicit crossdressing pictures of him, presumely as he was masturbating.

I had in my few months of transitioned already become aware that crossdressers & autogynephiles (transsexual Or otherwise) were very interested in pre-op trans women. I think most trans women who’ve done online dating would substantiate that in some manner.

Autogynephiles find associating with trans woman to be appealing in many ways. First of all, because they are commonly attracted to us, but also they see us as people who would understand & accept them. Requests like “can you help me crossdress & be feminine” are very common.

If you go to spaces where trans women congregate, you’re likely to find an occasional non-trans AGP (if they are welcome), some of them will go on transition, most will not but will stick around because of the aforementioned interests in us. So heres my third experience with one.

I was sitting at a bar one night when my friends decided to leave, I was transitioning at this point & this was a gay bar (because many of my friends are gay men). I was approached by an older man, about 45, who started flirting with me heavily. He didn’t strike me as gay at all.

We’ll call him Tom. He stood out at the gay bar like a sore thumb, he looked plain, regular. Like a dude into watching sports with his buddies at a pub. I wasn’t attracted to Tom, but I kept conversation with him because I was tipsy & bored. He asked a lot about me being trans.

Eventually Tom revealed that he himself crossdressed in secret. The alcohol & seemingly open atmosphere made his secrets slip easily. He had a wife & kids but liked to find trans women he could dress up with & have occasional fun with. I honestly wasn’t shocked at this point.

He complimented me heavily, remarking on how feminine & slender he thought I was. Clearly this was his game, flattery until someone yielded. I wasn’t interested at all physically, but drunk me was interested in what I could learn & saw it kind of like a game, plus free booze.

I have a general non-judgemental vibe so Tom quickly was eager to show his me his VAST collection of crossdressing pictures. Mostly in his office. “It makes me feel comfortable & sensual to express my womanly side, I’ve done it since I was 17, none of my friends & family know.”

I joked with Tom, questioned & played off of his remarks & flirtations. “Can I PLEASE crossdress with you sometime? Could you give me your number, I atleast wanna talk again” & I did give my number, after jokingly asking 50 bucks for them & him immediately handing it to me.

I had a few conversations via text with Tom. Mostly of him trying to convince me to meet up with him to crossdress together. He wasn’t being too upfront about but it was clear he was also plain & simple sexually interested. I eventually had to block him as his advances grew.

These are the most remarkable & personal of hundreds of interactions I have had with autogynphiles &/or erotic crossdressers. They are very active on apps like Grindr, despite categorically not being homosexuals as most ordinary folk would suspect. Mostly just my anecdotes today.