Biden supporters try to convince people to vote for him entirely on the presupposition that "Biden is still better than Trump," but frankly, I haven't seen a piece of evidence to back that up, and I believe he's just as bad as Trump

Sure, Biden may ~deep down~ be slightly left to Trump on some issues (even still, those things are negligible), but he absolutely WILL NOT fight for any of those things. I frankly can only picture a world where the US is more right-wing and oppressive after both candidates

Biden has said it himself. He's told progressives not to vote for him. He's told latinos to vote for Trump when asked about his deportation policy. He's told environmentalists to vote for Trump. It's not about spiting Biden, he's just being frank about what he stands for.

Not only that, but Biden has STATED he would be more of a warhawk than Trump. He's already saber rattling about North Korea. He's trying to out-xenophobia Trump re: China. Of course, I'm not convinced Trump would be better, but on some issues I think Biden would be worse.

If I could feel reasonably convinced Biden would ABSOLUTELY fight for at least 2 or 3 progressive issues, I would strongly consider voting for him. But as far as I'm concerned now, anyone who believes he will do that is a gullible nerd. He hasn't indicated he will at all

I would even consider voting for Biden if I felt confident he would REVERSE some of Trump's policies. The only thing I could see him doing is rejoining the Paris Accord, which is just back-patting lip service.

The only argument that is semi-convincing is the Supreme Court. But I'm not even convinced Biden would nominate a left-wing justice! 2 conservative justices (Thomas and Scalia) are largely on the Supreme Court because of Biden!

I'm not trying to be antagonistic with this thread either. I know my vote, and all of our votes, are largely irrelevant. If Biden loses, it won't be because I voted or not. But I really don't buy the argument that Biden would be better than Trump. He may be, but I don't buy it.