I'm going to be crystal clear so there is no misconstrusion of my words: The fact that an Adam stan was able to relate to this post fills me with nothing but DISGUST. More than any hate or vagueing I might receive for making this thread, THIS response is infinitely worse. https://twitter.com/SaykouYakiimo/status/1253594849590366209

Adam's deaths and Clover's deaths were NOTHING alike. Adam was a REMORSELESS ABUSER who received the exact punishment a REMORSELESS ABUSER should get. I'm going to fault the writers for a lot of things, but their handling of Adam Taurus was not one of them.

The writers handled that character's framing and comeuppance flawlessly. An abuser taken down by two of the women he wronged? I could KISS them that. It's what made 7X12 as painful at it was because we trusted them.

There is a WORLD of difference between Adam's death and Clovers

Clover spent an entire volume being kind and supportive to Qrow. He was regularly and explicitly marketed as Qrow's complement and love interest. His death was undeserved because the writing of 7X12 was inconsistent with every action taken and word spoken by this character.

And his death was the most brutal one ever conceived by the series. In case you forgot, he was STABBED THROUGH THE CHEST WITH A GIANT SWORD WHILE A POOL OF EXPLICITLY SHOWN BLOOD FORMED AROUND HIM. Despite seeing it only once, that image has burned itself into my mind.

Not a single other death in the death in the series was ever as brutal, or onscreen for that matter. Even Adam, the REMORESLESS ABUSER, had a death that handled him with more dignity, and that is BS. And Clover was gay coded heavily, so it played into BYG, too.

The sums of the parts of Clover's death and the implications of it for a marginalized group of people (Not to mention, people like Qrow) build onto each other, creating an almost unending list of reasons why Clover's death was not only upsetting, but actively traumatic.

There is so much more to Clover's death than poor writing to be mad about -- his coding, visual cues in relation to Clover, handling by the marketing team and animators of the series knowing the fanbase's feelings on Clover as well as what was ultimately being built up to.

All of that played into Clover's death becoming more than just a poorly-written death (Although that certainly doesn't help matters). This traumatized a vulnerable community that trusted them, and we want answers because what we went through in 7X12 was actually important.

How you're able to compare the two, relate you being upset with the most fitting death in the series (Adam) with being upset about a gay-coded character being inconsistently written just so he could have an overly violent death that harmed gay people (Clover) DISGUSTS me.

That's why I'm making this response as long as I am. I'd rather not have anyone's support for this thread at all than even give the implication that an Adam stan relating to this post is at all okay. So let me say it once again: Adam's death was called for, Clover's wasn't.

Adam stans sympathize with a character who is an abuser whose every onscreen action fittingly showed that his past, whatever it was, was no excuse for his present, and that's why they never bothered to show it -- it didn't matter. His present actions made him a monster.

This post wasn't meant for you. It was meant as validation for those in CDB who fought and continue to fight for something real. We're demanding answers for the failings of multiple facets of that company and telling them they won't get away with the harm they caused.

Our fight is against tropes that are unfortunately still mainstream and against a company that we trusted to do better because we knew they already did do better one year ago when they killed Adam Taurus.