A man has no say in whether a woman should abort his child or not. Doesn't matter how much he wants the child or not.

But once a woman gives birth, the father must provide. He has no choice.

It's either ethically incoherent or unjust.

Responsibilities should determine rights.

Oh boy.

I've spoken above people's heads.

Im not taking sides.

The point is that, if men have no right to determine abortion or not, then they should not be forced to support as is done in some nations.

Rights are given to protect and enable responsibilities.

That means

If the right to abort or not lies solely with the mother, then it follows that the responsibility of taking care of the child must rest solely on the mother also.

The moment a man is forced to have responsibility, he must have rights too.

Or else it's just trips.