The conscious shoring up of tradition is as much a modern move as is the conscious rejection of tradition. We’re continually grounded only in what we’ve yet to fully articulate either through apologetic or polemic. There’s a lesson to be gleaned from the Bhagavad-Gita on this... https://twitter.com/kylemartynich/status/1249817374863261699

Arjuna is caught at a moral impasse between two conflicting duties: he either has to kill his own flesh and blood or else fail his people as a ruler. Krishna advises him that both to kill and be killed is an illusion, and therefore to "fight on," that inaction is impossible.

Similarly, we often find ourselves caught between the conflicting demands of tradition and responsibility: we can seldom satisfy the demands of both, at least on a conscious level, without frustrating our relationship with each. How are we to dwell within both worlds?

The dialectic between tradition and responsible action is like the motion of a wheel that is held in place by a still point at its axle: the convergence of flux and motion at a stable urphenomenal center: the shape of the tradition in the responsibility of the one "traditioning."

One does not ever inhabit both sides of the dialectic. One does not fulfill both duties, and so both are continually violated on both sides of the discussion. The integrity of the tradition and of responsibility is lot to all of us. This just seems to be the nature of its process

- a process that actually never reveals anything in its purity, either in terms of tradition or responsible thinking and acting. But this does't mean we despair at futility: instead, what this means is that neither voice is ever fully expressing either thesis *or* anthithesis.

Rather, both traditionalism and (let's just call it progressivism/modernism) betray an inner dependence on the same phenomenon of antagonism and mutual differentiation that simply *is* the shape of both tradition and responsibility.

And I have no idea if any of this matters but it was interesting to try thinking it through. I really have sort of lost myself at this point so end thread.