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Long ass theory a thread.

"Who is the white masked man ?"
note: non of these are proven true it's just my own understanding

ok so first of all i spent 4 hours to create this and put them in words lmao so enjoy!

• Pirate King
i took notes on the lines that caught my attention.

"feel like somebody get it" mingi has this line on his rap and the transistion goes from whiteteez to pirateteez (check the mv it's around 0:50 i think) that somebody is their alter ego

"to be on the same ship you, you need a pirate king" hongjoong must be refering to himself and another line caught my attention "nothing to be careful about just be my friend" since he also has the "will you be my friend" i assumed that these lines are directed to +

their alter egos since not all alter egos goes with yourself you need to accept them to fully controll them so he's asking his alter ego to be his friend.

"don't lose me" "get closer" these are for everyone since they are starting their journey they must be close to one another. notice that they are staring in a desert place which most bandits hide so they must stay closer in order to not lose any of them to avoid problems.

and wooyoung is battling with his alter ego (notice the transition before the chorus) my thoughts on the Treasure mv is the same but for seonghsa seems like he know something WILL happen (i'll discuss it further later)

Additional info:
In Latin, alter ego literally means "second I". An alter ego can be thought of as a person's clone or second self. Alter ego can also refer to the second, hidden side of one's own self.

•Hala Hala + Say My Name

in Hala Hala seonghwa's line says "first time i felt this way before, meeting a new side of me" this time they met their alter ego which surprised them. the chorus of the song says "surprise surprise standing applause" and "suicide squad the reality" +

suicide squad is also known as their ego so they are or they knew the reality.

the megaphone that hongjoong has, for me it's an instrument for them to voice out what they feel (maybe, i'm not sure tho)

in say my name, the told us that say my name happened before pirate king and so does hala hala since smn and hala hala is connected. before they even start the journey the are doubting themselves because they are aware of their alter ego's capacity to do something.

hongjoong has a trumpet at the beging right? the trumpet is used to build anticipation and tells the reader/watcher that an alert, announcement, or warning is about to take place. it all makes sense when you connect smn and hala hala.

now the lyrics:
Ooh ya 에워싸 두르고 지켜봐 ya
이름 딱 네 글자 여기다 ya
티 나게 남겨놔
Zoom in here, 'cause I'm the captain

looking at the first sylables of the lyrics in each lines (in hangul) you can form 에 이 티 and the first letter of "zoom" is for 즈 since letter z has the sound 즈 in korean and we can form ATEEZ. this was revealed by hongjoong himself

"my name is A to the Z" more like the beginning to the end, if you know what I mean. "hold onto my hands, look at my eyes" then the transition of seonghwa's eyes. he knows something is going to happen and after that seonghwa's alter ego was revealed.

Hongjoong said he has a feather on his accessories to represent the weak ateez and look at this.

• Illusion + Wave + Crescent + Wonderland
"don't wake me up" "like a lie the view is like a lie" those were from Illusion where in they are all sleeping. yes sleeping. the music video is all a dream. notice how the mv ends, it ends with ateez sleeping (wave mv)

and then crescent's lyrics "open your eyes" now as the lyrics was being said we saw seonghwa opening his eyes. yes seonghwa again. seonghwa wants them to wake up.

what's with seonghwa? he always removes his masks (say my name x wonderland intro at mcountdown) , opens his eyes (illuwave and say my name) and removes whatever is covered in his eyes (answer and horizon) and he turned the hourglass upside down on illusion's mv.

the seonghwa who's with them is his alter ego. notice the masked and the hat tho

yunho, i'm always wondering why was he distant to everyone on hongjoong's part. he's at the back looking at his compass and his map. he has the compass from say my name to illusion but when hongjoong woke up he found the compass on his hand and ran away on wave's mv.

Yunho also said on their mv making for wonderland that he looks like he's monitoring Ateez because of the tvs infront of him.

lyrics:
"Pureunbit taeyang, Borasaek byeol (LET ME FREE)"

(1) Yeosang is inside the glass on say my name and wooyoung is outside observing him and once yeo reached out his hand woo walked as if he saw nothing.

(2) Wooyoung was chained on Wonderland MV and got freed by Mingi.

on Wonderland's intro at MCOUNTDOWN there was a compass right and each member stands on different directions. North: Mingi, South: Yunho, Eash: Jongho, West: Seonghwa, North-East: Hongjoong, North-West: Yeosang, South-East: Wooyoung and South-West: San and idk what are those for.

•Answer
"Who is the white masked man?" we all have this question right. And we have a lot of suspects and now i'm changing my suspect to San. I think they're trying to distract us from thinking it was san by showing him at +

the very beginning of the music video and at the end of answer's intro on their mcountdown performance.

If you play the music video in reverse it starts with the masked man and ends with the masked man right same as if you play it in normal but come to think of it after the masked man's scene it's always san before (ending) and after (start)

San's part in the intro he raised his hand first before doing the geonbaehaja thing but if you play in reverse he do the geonbaehaja first then raising his glass over his head which leads to jongho's line "raise your glasses over ur heads as high as they can be seen in the world"

San is always associated with mirrors, in smn era we saw broken mirrors around him, in answer era there was a broken mirror on the side. in smn era he has his reflection on the broken mirror same as the white masked man on answer mv.

Also mars @mars_san_8M1T (one of my oomf) noticed this. The hair. I also noticed that he is infact giving San's vibe when san was walking inside the room of broken mirrors.

Now Yeosang being his alter ego. He has a broken mirror with him and looked at it like it's worrying him. Maybe he knew what san is planing to do.

Now wooyoung was associated with two things: the hour glass and the butterfly. the hourglass represents time and/or death while the butterfly represents life.

Yeosang was in the desert right "we started here, it's nothing" the desert represents barriers, obstacles and challenges.

I also noticed on the intro of Answer at mcountdown there was a long table where in white teez and suicide squad is facing each other and i remembered what seonghwa said on the smn mv making: "it's like their having a hand condflict" where in Yunho asked Joong if he's evil and +

Hala Hala + Wonderland was showned. Mingi then asked Yunho if he's good and Aurora, Utopia, Wave, and Say My Name was shown.

Bonus:
Liting up a match + Fire symbolism
most of their combacks is associated with fire. Wooyoung lit a match on Illusion, Seonghwa lit a lamp and match on Wonderland and Mingi is inside the circle of fire.

now read this

Pirate King and Answer's choreography similarity. San and Jongho

"step 1 2 3 and 1 2 3 let's go!" "1 2 3 let's burn!" they all to count (lol)

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