I& #39;d like to see an advocate of the shutdowns acknowledge that the shutdowns aren& #39;t merely "inconvenient" but are causing great suffering on a massive scale, forcing many into abject destitution, destroying and ending lives, and giving the government a terrifying amount of power

You can then make the case that all of this is a cost worth paying. I& #39;ll listen to that argument. I& #39;m not going to agree, but I& #39;ll listen. But most of the pro-shutdown people refuse to admit that the policies have this kind of downside. And that& #39;s just not a serous position.