Okay. I think it's about time we adressed this drama saga.

I've read the entire KF thread and have been reading updates as they come in. I've viewed all available artworks posted by Nan, including the images that are particularly under scrutiny. I've read the testimony from

their ex, Sam. I've watched and analyzed hours of footage, videos of Nin and Nan on Youtube, TikTok, etc. I've seen their old social media. I've read things that most of their fans have not seen, or even bothered to go looking for in the first place.

I/we were a fan of theirs,

please remember that as we go along. We watched most if not all of their videos, as we have been subbed to both for the last 11 months. We felt a sort of kinship with them, as we have the same disorder. After the Trisha drama, we saw the videos GL did and fell down this strange

rabbit hole of drama. At first, we didn't know what to think, but the pieces are starting to come together.

For me, this isn't much about Nin. That case is cut and dry, Nin is very vague about a lot of things and her timeline is off. She also won't condemn the fans and their

Harassment of Trisha, Tatiana, and GL. Which, yes, there was clear harassment. The breakdowns that Tatiana had in her YT videos were distressing to watch. Trisha herself has been accused of soley being a troll, her actual trauma being ignored and conveniently not mentioned.

I'm not sure what to think of Nin, but I think I have more solid thoughts about Nan.

I share the view that Sam does, that Nan is not a pedophile. But I think that they've normalized their CSA and have no boundaries in this regard. The sexualization of Riven, who is integrated

with a former teenager, and the drawing of younger characters, is normalized for them. They don't see anything wrong with drawing children in a sexually fetishized way. They admit that sneezing is the only thing that arouses them, but somehow has no sexual connection to that in

their art. Even if they didn't get off to it, they were comissioned to create these things for people who possibly did, and that is wrong. It is being an accomplice and an enabler who wanted to see a baby wolf get sneezed on. They were paid to draw this. The "micro/macro" detail

does not excuse it. It's the intention. They drew a child with breasts sneezing for a fetish community. It was labelled porn, which Nan claims was a mistake. I'm sorry, but a 20-something that lives in our culture, asexual or not, is exposed to sexual discussion and imagery

constantly in the media we consume. It is everywhere, sold to us in everything we read, watch, view. Don't try to tell me that being asexual (despite admitting that this *does* arouse you) means that you didn't understand what the words "porn" and "fetish" meant in all contexts.

Nan clearly needs psychiatric help, and not just BetterHelp virtual counseling. I don't want to air everything, but they have real and significant issues that they need to work for. Normalizing your CSA is something that should be worked through and undone. The codependent

relationship between them and Nin is not healthy, and will likely end badly one day.

I also would like to point out that Kit, a teen alter in Nan's system, sought out a relationship with a teen alter in another system, at the same time Nan was first seeing Nin. When this

backfired, Kit and Nan then integrated. I don't know what this means, if it's a significant tell that something is up, or if they just need help.

We don't hate either of them. I need that to be clear. We condemn their actions but don't wish them harm. We know how mental illness

can hinder one's life. But we need the fans to stop blindly defending them and step up. Hold them accountable. They are human, and they make mistakes. But those mistakes cannot go unchecked. The people at KF, while not all of them think DID is real, are correct. Things

are amiss here, and wrong actions have been committed. There needs to be a clarification of these things. I agree they should take breaks, but eventually, there needs to be a proper apology.

Thanks for reading.
-Jasper

(This was extremely summarized and in no way fully

encapsulated everything that is going on here. There's still so much else to discuss, like how Fragmented Psyche has responded, and how DIDmomvlog is a neglectful parent who also needs to be held accountable for her actions. But that's for another thread, and

I know we'll have to further explain things in the inevitable hateful replies to this post by their fans.

But no worries, I'm a strong protector who isn't afraid of a little debate. After all, simple drama isn't "trauma" for me.)

#dissociadrama #DissociaDID #teampinata