"We are having a really hard time getting any answers from the postal service themselves," @WI_Elections admin Wolfe says of investigation into what happened with reportedly lost ballots in Wisconsin

First group of issue involves clerks sent March 20-24 that were never received by voters, Wolfe says. Involved 3rd party vendor that helped send out ballots

Multiple issues where households reported requesting ballots on the same day and then 1 person got the ballot while the other person had a significant delay or didn't get one at all.

I talked to one voter who this happened to https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/07/wisconsin-votes-controversial-election-coronavirus-us-election-2020

"We don't really have any scope of the actual issue not do we have any commonality," Wolfe says. They've asked how many ballots are at sorting facilities. Are they incoming, outgoing, can we get a spreadsheet or scan? USPS has said no, Wolfe said.

We've asked USPS why a ballot would be sent back to a clerk or a voter, Wolfe says. "No indicator there was some sort of systemic issue" with design or envelope Wisconsin uses, she says.

USPS told @WI_Elections that they told all branches to put local hand stamps on ballots if they arrived at election day. They understood SCOTUS ruling hinged on the postmark. "That was only on election day they were doing that..."

"I've asked them multiple time to send us that guidance," Wolfe says.

This is what the meeting looks like

Dean Knudson, commission chair, is now suggesting that commission can't do anything to change when ballots are accepted.

"A lot of things happened the night before the election...I clearly said that day that if you're gonna mail your ballot you should walk it in and have it hand cancelled," Knudson says. He raises that commission was aware that ballots might not be postmarked

"The commission was very clear about it what it intended...It has to have a legible postmark with a date," Knudson says.

"I think it was very clear when we had our discussion...if there's no postmark on it, then it should not be counted."

last quote is from Robert Spindell, GOP commissioner

Commissioner Mark Thomsen is now pointing out that there is no postmark requirement in Wisconsin state law.

"The memo is not recommending that ballots mailed after election day be counted," @WI_Elections Mike Haas says.

"It seems to me if some voter can prove they actually did it, we should take a look at it," says Robert Spindell.

"I think it's absurd to pretend" that a ballot that arrived on April 8, wasn't put in the mail ahead of election day, commissioner Ann Jacobs says

"Everybody seemed to assume that every piece of mail gets a postmark, which it doesn't. How many people are we going to disenfranchise over a decorative stamp" versus people who put their ballots in the mail on time, Jacobs says.

Jacobs asks Spindell if he's "seriously suggesting" that ballots that arrived on April 8 weren't mailed in time

Jacobs says you have to go to the airport in Milwaukee to get a hand stamped postmark(?)

Spindell says that's not true

Knudson says it's "common knowledge" that if you want to really prove you mailed something on a particular day, you have to go in to the post office. "No it's not," Jacobs says, cutting in.

(I don't think it's common knowledge that the day you put something in the mailbox is not the equivalent of getting it postmarked that day)

Commissioner Knudson suggests that even though reports have sounded the alarm about people disenfranchised for not getting ballots back in time, this happens every election, and this one is no different (SCOTUS made similar argument)

Knudson wants some kind of affidavit from USPS laying out their system for using postmarks that just say "April 2020"