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A question that came up after this talk I gave on death and Plato& #39;s Phaedo centered, first, on the role of psychedelics in understanding the nature of death and, second, on what I thought about the possibility that Socrates, Plato, and others partook in psychedelics rites. https://twitter.com/AE_Robbert/status/1246456787416444928">https://twitter.com/AE_Robber...
On the 1st question, How do psychedelics help us understand death? I& #39;d recommend that readers check out the studies being done at Johns Hopkins:
https://maps.org/other-psychedelic-research/211-psilocybin-research/psilocybin-studies-in-progress/1268-johns_hopkins_study_of_psilocybin_in_cancer_patients
TL;DR:">https://maps.org/other-psy... Psychedelics reduce the anxiety of death in those about to face it, in a kind of Socratic equanimity.
https://maps.org/other-psychedelic-research/211-psilocybin-research/psilocybin-studies-in-progress/1268-johns_hopkins_study_of_psilocybin_in_cancer_patients
TL;DR:">https://maps.org/other-psy... Psychedelics reduce the anxiety of death in those about to face it, in a kind of Socratic equanimity.
I& #39;m not a clinical reductionist about these matters, especially since you don& #39;t need a clinical trial to observe the benefits of psychedelics, & because the clinical setting can introduce secondary effects on the experience, but these are good studies w/ bearing on the inquiry.
The 2nd question, Did Socrates & others partake in psychedelic rites? Is less straightforward, but scholars like William Richards has a book, Sacred Knowledge: Psychedelics & Religious Experience, that takes up this theme, & @michaelpollan mentions it in his latest work, as well.
The most promising answer, IMO, is that Socrates and Co likely ingested a psychedelic beverage called kykeon, as part of the Eleusinian Mystery rites:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kykeon
I">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyke... do not think this is the mainstream view (yet), so I don& #39;t want to misrepresent the scholarship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kykeon
I">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyke... do not think this is the mainstream view (yet), so I don& #39;t want to misrepresent the scholarship.
That said, if you check out the studies, consider the Platonic connection w/ the Eleusinian Mysteries, look at how Socrates is depicted in the Phaedo etc., examine the themes he often conjures (e.g., recollection), & do a little exploring on your own, a different picture emerges.
This idea doesn& #39;t undercut the mainstream view of Platonic dialogues as centered on uses of reason & dialectical thinking. It& #39;s a supplement to them.
John Cooper holds the view that we should view reason as the most significant aspect of this philosophy: https://www.amazon.com/Pursuits-Wisdom-Philosophy-Socrates-Plotinus-ebook/dp/B007BOK5QW/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=john+m.+cooper&qid=1586444072&sr=8-5">https://www.amazon.com/Pursuits-...
John Cooper holds the view that we should view reason as the most significant aspect of this philosophy: https://www.amazon.com/Pursuits-Wisdom-Philosophy-Socrates-Plotinus-ebook/dp/B007BOK5QW/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=john+m.+cooper&qid=1586444072&sr=8-5">https://www.amazon.com/Pursuits-...
I& #39;ve written about why I don& #39;t find Cooper& #39;s view convincing, advocating for Pierre Hadot& #39;s idea that philosophy should be read as rooted in spiritual exercise:
https://knowledge-ecology.com/2019/08/23/reason-and-spiritual-exercises/
Hadot">https://knowledge-ecology.com/2019/08/2... doesn& #39;t say this, but I suspect psychedelics were involved in some of those exercises.
https://knowledge-ecology.com/2019/08/23/reason-and-spiritual-exercises/
Hadot">https://knowledge-ecology.com/2019/08/2... doesn& #39;t say this, but I suspect psychedelics were involved in some of those exercises.
All of this is to suggest, there& #39;s an interesting congruence here among first-person experience, clinical studies, & historical scholarship. Surely, I wouldn& #39;t reduce Socratic philosophy to psychedelics, but I wouldn& #39;t undercut the potential influence of them on it either.
Here is @doctormickey with further support (and with further concision) for this idea: https://becomingintegral.com/2013/09/19/was-plato-on-drugs/">https://becomingintegral.com/2013/09/1...
