[THREAD]

(Going to update it every once in a while)

Fallacious and false Shia analogies (they always end up doing Qiyas in matters of Aqidah which is strictly forbidden in their ahadith!).

You object to our belief in Wilayah al-Takwiniyyah (divine control over every atom by the 'infallible' Twelve Imams), yet look your Sahaba could hear Umar's warning from afar in the battlefield! So miracles are halal for Umar but haram for Ahlul-Bayt?

Response: That's a strawman argument, for Ahlus-Sunnah do not deny miracles, Karamat (miracles performed by non-Prophets) or Kashf (intuition, Kashf) for ANY believing individuals. Here a major Sunni-Salafi website explaining the latter: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/12778/intuition

However, aside from arguing with a strawman, you have also falling into a logical fallacy by comparing two different things. The Sunni belief in mu'jizat/karamat (miracles for Prophets and Awliya) is a Quranic one. It simply means that these individuals (especially Prophets)...

...perform certain supernatural acts. It doesn't mean that they inherently possessed those powers. Omar (r) for instance could not be heard from anywhere *by default*, nor did anybody invoke him&prayed to him (Ya Omar madad like Ya Ali MADAD what Shias and extremist Quburis do).

The kufri Shia belief of Wilayah al-Takwiniyyah on the other hand is the root of all evil, it states that the authority of ALL of creation was given by Allah to the Imams (of course with the pathetic 'with the permission of Allah' excuse). This is the belief of the Ghulat...

... i.e. extremist of the past that the modern day Twelver Shia have adopted and slightly modified ('with the permission of Allah' excuse) to fool the gullible.

The truth is, Allah has never delegated (tafwidh) absolute control over every atom (as kafir Khomeini and almost every living and dead Ayatullat says) to ANY of his creation and the Ahlul-Bayt are innocent of this belief and cursed those who attributed it to them.

On this blog (run by Ex-Shias and Shia reformists) you can read about the heretical Twelver Shia belief in Wilayah al-Takwiniyyah ( #Ghuluw) and how it opposed the Qur'an, Sunnah and Ahlul-Bayt (a) of course:
https://shiareformist.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/ghuluw.pdf

Conclusion: Ya Shia, don't compare apples with oranges. May Allah guide you and us.

'You Sunnis always claim that we insult Imam Ali (as) by saying that his wife was almost besten to dearh in his presence, yet you should read your won books! Did you know that Uthman didn't protect his wife? His assailants cut off her fingers and even slapped her bum!'

Response: Yes, that's how low they go in order to justify the silly and contradictory myth of the broken rib (of Fatima r). Clutching at straws, that's all it is, for what the Shias don't mention is that...

Uthman (r) was slaughtered on the spot, the moment they entered the house. Most importantly: He was a very old man (late 80s early 90s) at that time, fragile, especially compared to a bunch of armed assailants! There is little he could do.

Ali (r) on the other hand was not just in his prime, he was the alleged strongest man on earth, heck, he controlled every existing and created atom (except those of the Sahaba it seems...),

yet a bunch of mortals managed who tag team and take turns (!) besting his wife and milking her unborn.

This is ---> https://twitter.com/EbnHussein1424/status/1247807861964455949?s=19

... whom the disingenuous Rafidah compare with an old and fragile Othman (r)!

Desperation upon desperation.