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The Rapture
By: POGM
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Most of us have been taught one theory or another when it comes to the Lord's second coming, or rapture, as some prefer to call it. Is it Pre-tribulation? Is it Mid-tribulation? Or is it Post-tribulation?
By: POGM
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Most of us have been taught one theory or another when it comes to the Lord's second coming, or rapture, as some prefer to call it. Is it Pre-tribulation? Is it Mid-tribulation? Or is it Post-tribulation?
Does the Bible even use the term "rapture?" Many have even been taught of a secret rapture that will occur without the rest of the wicked world knowing where the Christians have gone.
They are preaching a day will come when suddenly millions of Christians will be mysteriously missing. They teach the Christians will actually vanish into thin air. Truth is, if you do some checking you will find this happens to be the most common belief in the churches today.
We must also consider the seven year tribulation period that all three beliefs claim as still to come upon the world. Some believe the seven years will be an opportunity for the lost to have their last chance to see errors of their evil ways & finally convert to Christianity.
A major feat no less seeing how according to their own theories, all the "real" Christian preachers & teachers were supposedly raptured up beforehand. I ask, how does God spread His Truth now?
By using Christians to share their faith & the Scriptures they already studied, right?
"How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?" Romans 10:14
If all those preachers are raptured up already, who is preaching? https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/rom/10/14/s_1056014
If all those preachers are raptured up already, who is preaching? https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/rom/10/14/s_1056014
Then there are those that believe the rapture occurs at the moment of death for every person on the planet. Almost like their own personal end time experience one by one.
Before going further, my question is this. Are you a Christian? Do you believe in the Christian God? Do you believe in the Word of that Christian God? If so, then let's see what that Word says about all this...
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2Th 2:3
(Merc: The Antichrist must be revealed first) https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2th/2/3/s_1118003
(Merc: The Antichrist must be revealed first) https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2th/2/3/s_1118003
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 2Th 2:4
(Merc: Only way to destroy religion is by rerouting it's origin. Alien card.) https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2th/2/4/s_1118004
(Merc: Only way to destroy religion is by rerouting it's origin. Alien card.) https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2th/2/4/s_1118004
Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 2Th 2:5
(Merc: Even Jesus' disciples couldn't figure out His parables.) https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2th/2/5/s_1118005
(Merc: Even Jesus' disciples couldn't figure out His parables.) https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2th/2/5/s_1118005
And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 2Th 2:6 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2th/2/6/s_1118006
First of all, Paul is talking to Believers here when he is saying, "Let no man deceive you..." Secondly, has the man of sin been revealed?
The Bible says the lost CANNOT see the truth. It is plainly written that,
"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." John 14:17 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/14/17/s_1011017
"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." John 14:17 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/14/17/s_1011017
According to biblical jurisprudence, the man of sin is to be revealed to Believers ONLY. Only those that proclaim Jesus Lord, study His Word, & believe His Word can understand His Word.
One of the popular theories is, when the Christians leave the Holy Ghost goes with them. So again I ask, if there is no Holy Ghost indwelt Christians on Earth, then WHO I ask is the man of sin being revealed to? The wicked?
(Merc: Revelation 9:4 hints that Holy Ghost is sealed?)
(Merc: Revelation 9:4 hints that Holy Ghost is sealed?)
According to the Christian bible that would be impossible.` Only those that have the Spirit of Truth can see this man of lies.
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 2Th 2:8 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2th/2/8/s_1118008
Here we see the wicked one is revealed, & THEN the Lord destroys him "with the brightness of His coming." Again, many declare Jesus comes first, & then the wicked one is revealed to all. This verse alone proves they are deceived. https://twitter.com/SouledOutWorld/status/1187724153719345152
The way this entire passage is penned proves only believers understand who the wicked one is, & did you notice, it does not mention 7 years, & it doesn't mention anything about it being a "secret" when Jesus returns to destroy the wicked.
A little later on I will be sharing Bible verses that prove it can in no way be a "secret" rapture. They are quite blunt in fact.
So blunt you will never hear of them on pulpits that declare a 7 year tribulation or secret rapture because in so doing it would expose them as false teachers. https://twitter.com/SouledOutWorld/status/1224033457640263680
As we continue on from verse 8 that speaks of the Lord returning, the Word of God continues on in topic regarding "even him" (Jesus) who is coming soon...
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 2Th 2:9 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2th/2/9/s_1118009
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 2Th 2:10 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2th/2/10/s_1118010
Here we see the Word declaring that directly after the "working of Satan" the Lord will arrive in the air. This has to be my favorite passage on this topic. This is again one of passages you will never see proclaimed on pulpits that preach a 3 or 7 year pre tribulation Rapture.
All across Christendom it is proclaimed that Christians leave before the "signs & lying wonders" of Satan. But here it is plainly stated that Jesus is coming "after the working of Satan."
This SEVEN YEAR RAPTURE THEORY is found absolutely nowhere in the Scriptures. Furthermore, imagine just what this seven year tribulation period would entail if it were true.
This would literally mean "SEVEN YEARS OF PARTIES" for all the sinners that were left behind on the Earth! Think of it.
According to their own sermons on this topic, there are no Christians are on the planet after the "secret rapture" telling the wicked souls left behind to straighten up & fly right before Jesus comes back.
No one is warning them of their evil ways! No one is even to be found anywhere in the entire world praying for them!
Have you ever gone into a bar to preach Jesus Christ to drunkards? Have you ever gone into a porn theatre to stand before the people to preach? Most will agree that preachers are not welcome there.
The people go there to be able to revel in sin. If there are no Christians on earth do you think the wicked are going to become all depressed looking for help & Jesus? Or would they be even more apt to party hardy?
Now I know that this pre-Trib theory also says that during this seven years the world will experience intense tribulation like never before. Some believe this is supposed to get the wicked to "think" about their sin & open bibles & become saved.
Common sense affords us the reality that if they didn't have "discernment" beforehand, what makes them think they will have it now? Discernment is that which comes from years of walking with Jesus Christ.
If they are correct in their assumptions, they must also admit they stated the Holy Ghost is off the planet. Who is it that cuts the heart of the people to seek out Jesus Christ?
If there is no "Holy Ghost" on the Planet prodding them towards truth, they are going to be much happier the Christians are gone because now they won't be bothered by their guilt laden sermons.
Besides, have you have ever known anyone that has been so deeply into the sin of alcohol? I've watched people consciously kill themselves for years by using this satanic drink. They literally clamor after the drink even though they have rock solid evidence it's killing them.
The open sores all over their bodies when their liver shuts down,
the coughing up of blood due to massive ulcers in their gut,
the convulsive shaking each morning before they drink,
the loss of teeth & permanently dimmed eyes prove that rough tribulation would in no way slow down this persons desire to party on.
So using the "tribulation" as a catalyst to get them to Jesus Christ is just plain impossible, & quite outside the realm of reality.
Truth is, all this secret rapture theory is, is an hellish trick of the Devil played on the deceived to get them to think that they would have a second chance at salvation once they see with their own eyes the mysterious disappearance of millions of Christians around the world.
However, reality proves it's actually bringing to mind a world wide orgy of sin & decadence for all those that prefer not to repent. Kind of like a reward for all the lucky sinners that were fortunate enough to be left behind.
It's amazing to me how common sense rules this one out with ease. Seriously! Think about this.
Let's say there is a man that has been in sin his entire life. So much so that he is homeless & living in skid row. I used to frequent the missionaries near Chicago when I lived up there years ago.
In order for a man to get a free meal in these missions you had to sit through a 20 minute sermon before eating. Now think about a man that has been living on skid row 40 years. Three times a day he eats at these missions. Three times a day he listens to a preacher before eating.
This is of course not counting the young preacher wanna-be's that minister unto him daily. So, that would equate to him hearing & ignoring well over 43,680 SERMONS.
Now, according to the pre-Trib theorists, all real Christians have been raptured up. Now, suddenly this man that lived on skid row BELIEVES what he has denied for 40 years of thrice daily hearing sermons?
And to top it off he does so without the help of a preacher directing him to the Word of God? Keep in mind according to the pre-Trib theorists he must also come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ without the help of the Holy Ghost.
So, let's look to the Word of God in a little more depth to see if any of these "secret" or "pre-Trib" rapture theories hold up to Biblical jurisprudence. Fact remains, if we want to understand prophecy we must keep our own definitions out of the mix entirely!
For 2 Peter 1:20 plainly teaches us that no prophecy is of any private interpretation. https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2pe/1/20/s_1157020
Plus, if we are to understand any Biblical truth & or doctrine, are we not counseled in the Word that
"precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:" Isaiah 28:10 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/isa/28/10/s_707010
"precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:" Isaiah 28:10 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/isa/28/10/s_707010
With that in mind, let us look a little deeper into His Word to see the Truth on this.
So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Heb 9:28 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/heb/9/28/s_1142028
And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away. I Peter 5:4 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1pe/5/4/s_1156004
If Jesus was planning on coming in SECRET as many preach, He would not "appear" at all. Plus we would not be able to "look for Him" as the Word of God plainly illustrates we will be doing on that day. For if He is in secret, He won't appear, & we won't be able to see Him.
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2Pe 3:10 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2pe/3/10/s_1159010
Here we see the Word of God declaring the day of the Lord will not only come unexpectedly. It will come with a GREAT NOISE! Does that sound like a secret?
How is it possible to hide the fact that the earth, its elements, & all the "works" of man upon the earth are burned up on that day?
Even if millions of Christians vanish into thin air as some preach, the convulsing & burning planet as well as the great noise all this is going to make will no doubt enlighten the wicked that something biblical is happening wouldn't you think?
How do you destroy the earth & all its cities without the wicked knowing it?
