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1/n #SadarPranam @Schandillia ,I’m sorry but this thread trying to prove “Aryan Invasion” is full of errors & flawed understandings.
Here is my point by point rebuttal to your bunkum thread. Do respond: should u have substance & no rhetoric or baseless news reports. https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1234102742496366593
Here is my point by point rebuttal to your bunkum thread. Do respond: should u have substance & no rhetoric or baseless news reports. https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1234102742496366593
2/n & @Schandillia care not to respond until tweet reads n/n.
Interesting that you call “Dravidian” as real “Indian”& state “North Indians” aren’t as old as “IVC” habitants.
You are damn confused. Let me begin explaining with “Dravidian”. Any idea why & when this word came ? https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1234102746388647936
Interesting that you call “Dravidian” as real “Indian”& state “North Indians” aren’t as old as “IVC” habitants.
You are damn confused. Let me begin explaining with “Dravidian”. Any idea why & when this word came ? https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1234102746388647936
3/n The term “Dravidian” was coined by Robert Caldwell, an Evangelist in his book of comparative Dravidian grammar around mid 19th Century.
He too kind of made similar distinctions like you @Schandillia . Read on
He too kind of made similar distinctions like you @Schandillia . Read on
4/n He identified south Indian Brahmins with Indo-Europeans, who according to him had "higher mental gifts and higher capacity for civilisation".
Source: Indian Society: Historical Probings in memory of D. D. Kosambi. Indian Council of Historical Research, pg126
Source: Indian Society: Historical Probings in memory of D. D. Kosambi. Indian Council of Historical Research, pg126
5/n Caldwell stated that the low-caste “Chanar”were not merely Tamil speakers but an”indigenous Dravidian",different ethnically as well as religiously from their high-caste oppressors,whom he referred to as "Brahmanical Aryans".
6/n These claims of Caldwell, were intended “just to establish that the indigenous Dravidians had been oppressed & colonized by the Brahmanical Aryans".
He was up with mission to convert South-Indians into Christianity.
He was up with mission to convert South-Indians into Christianity.
7/n But the south-Indians of that period weren’t fool. The first edition of Caldwell's grammar saw firm resistance" by the Chanars & they didn’t entertain the idea of being divorced from Vaidik Civilisation: A very division that Caldwell was hoping to exploit & mass-convert.
8/n Source for 5/n -7/n
More is coming! It’s just starter @Schandillia . Wait till thread reads n/n. https://www.academia.edu/2319713/Hinduisms_Christian_Missions_and_the_Tinnevelly_Shanars_A_Study_of_Colonial_Missions_in_19th_Century_India?source=swp_share
More is coming! It’s just starter @Schandillia . Wait till thread reads n/n. https://www.academia.edu/2319713/Hinduisms_Christian_Missions_and_the_Tinnevelly_Shanars_A_Study_of_Colonial_Missions_in_19th_Century_India?source=swp_share
9/n There is an interesting aspect for North-South dividers like @Schandillia .
As per Tamil history sources like “commentary on Tolkāppiyam” by Naccinarkkiniyar, the author is stated to be Tiranatumakkini(alternate name for Tolkappiyan)son of a BRAHMIN named Camatakkini.
As per Tamil history sources like “commentary on Tolkāppiyam” by Naccinarkkiniyar, the author is stated to be Tiranatumakkini(alternate name for Tolkappiyan)son of a BRAHMIN named Camatakkini.
10/n Also it’s stated that the author Tholkappiyar was disciple of Agastya one of the Rishi to have compiled Ruchas of RigVeda. As per traditional legend, the original grammar was called Agathiam written down by Agastya himself & it went missing after a great deluge.
11/n It was then that his student Tholkappiyar was asked to compile Tamil grammar, which is Tolkappiyam.
Source for 9/n to 11/n: The Smile of Murugan: On Tamil Literature of South India By Kamil Zvelebil
Source for 9/n to 11/n: The Smile of Murugan: On Tamil Literature of South India By Kamil Zvelebil
12/n What few “Spanish Teachers” fail to understand is that tweet 9/n -11/n makes bold statement that oldest so called known Dravidian Literature Tolkāppiyam was primarily a work of RigVedic Rishi Agastya & his Brahmin Pupil Tolkāppiyan.
Hence it’s stupid to make a claim that: https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1235153857761677317
Hence it’s stupid to make a claim that: https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1235153857761677317
13/n 1)Dravidians were different from so called “Aryans”.
2)Vedas are common among both so called “Aryans” (or North Indians as @Schandillia might like to call) & Dravidians.
They are same people.
Let’s move on with understanding that:
2)Vedas are common among both so called “Aryans” (or North Indians as @Schandillia might like to call) & Dravidians.
They are same people.
Let’s move on with understanding that:
14/n “Arya” is a Sanskrit word which means noble & Dravida is geographical connotation for southern India. Which has also been described in Mahabharata.
15/n @Schandillia further claims that IVC which should actually be called “Sarasvati Indus Civilisation” . The recent most discoveries push back the date to more 2500 years.
Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/srep26555.pdf (paper published on 25/05/2016) update urself. https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1234102748259344389
Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/srep26555.pdf (paper published on 25/05/2016) update urself. https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1234102748259344389
16/n This tweet is absolutely bunkum. The recent most paper published on September 5, 2019 demolishes any claim that Steppes are root of any South-East Asia population. There is no such thing called Aryan Migration.
@Schandillia may update himself reading https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/vagheesh/files/piis0092867419309675.pdf https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1234102756215885824
@Schandillia may update himself reading https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/vagheesh/files/piis0092867419309675.pdf https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1234102756215885824
17/n Use of “Linguists” as an attempt to prove “Aryan” migration is deliberate for it was imp to make Sanskrit a language that evolved in 2nd Millennium BC.
Interestingly there is ZERO evidence of “Proto-Indo-European”common language which is famously called PIE. https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1234102759839825926
Interestingly there is ZERO evidence of “Proto-Indo-European”common language which is famously called PIE. https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1234102759839825926
18/n These studies what you call as “proof” are only hypothesis. I’m sure you know process of Problem, Hypothesis, Research,Thesis, Inferences, & Theory.
Dear @Schandillia this hypothesis can be other way around too. ie, It was from Sanskrit that these all emerged. https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1234102761752416256
Dear @Schandillia this hypothesis can be other way around too. ie, It was from Sanskrit that these all emerged. https://twitter.com/Schandillia/status/1234102761752416256
19/n @Schandillia yes, there are very strong chances for people of have travelled out of India & lit along with current researches prove this point with utmost sincerity.
As per paper by Maria Bapito & others, OIT speaks quite strongly. Read paper here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-57880-4
As per paper by Maria Bapito & others, OIT speaks quite strongly. Read paper here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-57880-4
20/n @Schandillia now like a moron you may say that how does above paper prove OIT. Let me explain how.
The paper put in 19/n establishes:
introgression of indicine-derived DNA came into Central Italian white cattle breeds 8000 years ago.
So any idea what our lit say abt it?
The paper put in 19/n establishes:
introgression of indicine-derived DNA came into Central Italian white cattle breeds 8000 years ago.
So any idea what our lit say abt it?
21/n In fact if one tracks Vedas & Puranas, Out-of-India Theory gets a historical support too.
Druhyus - a RigVedic kula were first to migrate out of India. <<The RigVeda mentions them but not about migration.>> @Schandillia note it!
Druhyus - a RigVedic kula were first to migrate out of India. <<The RigVeda mentions them but not about migration.>> @Schandillia note it!
22/n Dhruhyus have been located in Gandhāra, Aratta and Setu. (Viṣṇu Purāṇa 4.17). The Druhyus (under Aṅgāra) were forced out of the land of the Sapta Sindhu by King Māndhātā of the Īkṣvāku dynasty. (Mahābhārata, Śānti Parva, 29.88)
@NileshOak
places it 7-8ka bp (approx)
@NileshOak
places it 7-8ka bp (approx)
23/n Druhyu king Pracetas,the son of Duryaman who was the son of Dhrita,the great-great-great grandson of Druhyu settled in the udīcya region. (Bhāgavata Purāṇa 9.23.15-16,Viṣṇu Purāṇa 4.17.5,Vāyu Purāṇa 99.11-12,Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa 3.74.11-12 & Matsya Purāṇa48.9)
24/n @Schandillia Udīcya (in 23/n ):Situated in the north.
The country to the north and west of the river Sarasvatī; northern country.
I have already spoken about Arrata & Setu in 22/n.Perhaps Druhyu are the ancestors of the IranianEuropean peoples & of the Celtic Druid class.
The country to the north and west of the river Sarasvatī; northern country.
I have already spoken about Arrata & Setu in 22/n.Perhaps Druhyu are the ancestors of the IranianEuropean peoples & of the Celtic Druid class.
25/nInterestingly Purāṇa(s) don’t talk about Druhyus after the King Pracetas whose 100 sons settled in the north of Afghanistan(udīcya)& became mlecchá.(Bhāgavata Purāṇa 9.23.15-16,Viṣṇu Purāṇa 4.17.5,Vāyu Purāṇa 99.11-12,Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa 3.74.11-12 & Matsya Purāṇa48.9)
