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So Star Trek: First Contact, right?
Part of the story is the crew influencing Zephram Cochrane to be the hero they knew him to be from the history books.
Shame we don't know how that would have gone had the Borg and Enterprise never intervened.
Except... maybe... we do. /
Part of the story is the crew influencing Zephram Cochrane to be the hero they knew him to be from the history books.
Shame we don't know how that would have gone had the Borg and Enterprise never intervened.
Except... maybe... we do. /
Y'all
I think this might be the Prime Star Trek Universe.
The one that isn't changed by time travel. The actual path humanity was on.
I think... I think that the Federation universe might be the alternate one. /
I think this might be the Prime Star Trek Universe.
The one that isn't changed by time travel. The actual path humanity was on.
I think... I think that the Federation universe might be the alternate one. /
Zephram Cochrane is a drunk scavenger in a dog-eat-dog world immediately after the third world war and the eugenics wars.
And the Enterprise crew put a *lot* of work into him. Like, that's the whole B plot of the move.
In the ruins of post-war, super militaristic America. /
And the Enterprise crew put a *lot* of work into him. Like, that's the whole B plot of the move.
In the ruins of post-war, super militaristic America. /
Y'all.
All I can find against this is a few characters saying things like "The Empire has existed for centuries" or "We banished those weaknesses millenia ago."
It's a fascist dictatorship.
The first thing they do is manipulate history to support the regime.
See: Bushido. /
All I can find against this is a few characters saying things like "The Empire has existed for centuries" or "We banished those weaknesses millenia ago."
It's a fascist dictatorship.
The first thing they do is manipulate history to support the regime.
See: Bushido. /
We know that Cochrane was the pivotal moment.
But maybe it wasn't the flight.
Maybe that's not the change they made, 'making sure it happened.'
Maybe it's the work they put in to showing this man a future with the potential for peace.
The Federation... IS ITS OWN GRANDPA. /
But maybe it wasn't the flight.
Maybe that's not the change they made, 'making sure it happened.'
Maybe it's the work they put in to showing this man a future with the potential for peace.
The Federation... IS ITS OWN GRANDPA. /
Now, instead of some high-on-adrenaline scavver in the smoking ruin of the USA suddenly having *nearly infinite power,*
There's a man, gifted Federation guidance and principles, by the organization that his actions allow to exist.
And reminding him of legacy, and consequences./
There's a man, gifted Federation guidance and principles, by the organization that his actions allow to exist.
And reminding him of legacy, and consequences./
Thirty years ago this week, Yesterday's Enterprise aired.
Setting up, in fact, a villain in the form of Sela. Who is created by exactly this sort of temporal fuckery. /
https://twitter.com/ThreeKobolds/status/1230714259123793925
Setting up, in fact, a villain in the form of Sela. Who is created by exactly this sort of temporal fuckery. /
https://twitter.com/ThreeKobolds/status/1230714259123793925
Or 23 years ago, Children of Time, when the Defiant finds a planet that has the crew's descendants on it, from when their ship crashed in the past from trying to leave in the future.
And then Oldo (shoutout @BenjaminAhr and @CutForTime) changes it all, and merges with himself. /
And then Oldo (shoutout @BenjaminAhr and @CutForTime) changes it all, and merges with himself. /
We know from Disco that it's not that humans are evil.
It's that they're terrified. Traumatized.
Ruled with an iron fist, their strength a mask for their fear.
Because, again, it's a Fascist dictatorship. One that has been allowed to survive, founded with unlimited power. /
It's that they're terrified. Traumatized.
Ruled with an iron fist, their strength a mask for their fear.
Because, again, it's a Fascist dictatorship. One that has been allowed to survive, founded with unlimited power. /
The mirror universe isn't an alternate dimension where everyone is evil.
It's the prime dimension.
The Federation Universe is an alternate dimension where, due to space and time fuckery, an impossible hope exists. /
It's the prime dimension.
The Federation Universe is an alternate dimension where, due to space and time fuckery, an impossible hope exists. /
But that's ridiculous, Star Trek wouldn't have a pivotal moment in the timeline happen because a person with advanced knowledge of how it had to happen came back and made sure it did.
*Stares 2024ly*
Ridiculous.
/End
*Stares 2024ly*
Ridiculous.
/End
Wait.
Wait.
FUCKING WAIT.
Wait.
FUCKING WAIT.
Lorca says, when they find out about the mirror universe, that it's “The strongest argument I’ve ever seen for destiny.”
Because the Federation universe is the fabrication. It's the thing, there as a better world that could be, for the Prime Universe. /
Because the Federation universe is the fabrication. It's the thing, there as a better world that could be, for the Prime Universe. /
JUST LIKE IT IS IN OURS.
FOR THE SAME REASONS.
FIGHTING THE SAME FORCES.
OFFERING THE SAME HOPE.
FOR THE SAME REASONS.
FIGHTING THE SAME FORCES.
OFFERING THE SAME HOPE.
Apropos of nothing, this also means that this is what Picard actually looks like.
The diplomat is a mirror version.
The diplomat is a mirror version.
RODDENBERRY WAS TRYING TO WARN US. https://mobile.twitter.com/Utzad1/status/1230875796446883841
No, wait, this is crazy. If Roddenberry was influenced by the future federation bootstrapping itself into existence, he wouldn't have just made a popular show, he would have done something to influence the politics and activism of the sixties and-
Wait, wait, wait. No. Surely they would have shared some of the technologies that helped them reduce scarcity and have more access-
But wait, no. Just like Scotty says when he's giving the formula for transparent aluminum to a manufacturer in 1986, how do we know that's not who would have invented it anyway-
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS GOING ON IS THIS HOW CONSPIRACY THEORISTS FEEL ALL THE TIME
Some reading on my lunchbreak.
There's disagreement in the Canon on when the divergence occurs, but I've got some pretty solid evidence for it fitting with at least one of the sources: https://mobile.twitter.com/NomeDaBarbarian/status/1230977581488279552
There's disagreement in the Canon on when the divergence occurs, but I've got some pretty solid evidence for it fitting with at least one of the sources: https://mobile.twitter.com/NomeDaBarbarian/status/1230977581488279552
My mentions all day have been people quote tweeting this thread with signs of the same madness and chaos that birthed it, which is good.
Misery should be shared.
Qts have been like
Misery should be shared.
Qts have been like
This, from a man who is retired air force intelligence turned "contractor."
Nobody panic.
https://mobile.twitter.com/mtkerr89/status/1231012273302323200
Nobody panic.
https://mobile.twitter.com/mtkerr89/status/1231012273302323200
OH WAIT
WAIT
NO
THE DIPLOMAT ISN'T THE MIRROR VERSION https://mobile.twitter.com/NomeDaBarbarian/status/1230851071108468736
WAIT
NO
THE DIPLOMAT ISN'T THE MIRROR VERSION https://mobile.twitter.com/NomeDaBarbarian/status/1230851071108468736
THIS IS
WHICH IS WHY Q, WHO ENGINEERED THIS WHOLE THING TO BEGIN WITH, WHO HAS CONSTANTLY BEEN HELPING HUMANITY BOOTSTRAP ITSELF
HELPED PICARD BOOTSTRAP HIMSELF INTO THE MAN HE NEEDS TO BE
THE MAN WHO LAUGHS WHEN STABBED IN THE HEART
THE MAN WHO COULD FIGHT THE BORG ON THE HOLODECK
HELPED PICARD BOOTSTRAP HIMSELF INTO THE MAN HE NEEDS TO BE
THE MAN WHO LAUGHS WHEN STABBED IN THE HEART
THE MAN WHO COULD FIGHT THE BORG ON THE HOLODECK
IT'S BOOTSTRAPS ON BOOTSTRAPS ON BOOTSTRAPS
Because, maybe, it's only the Federation universe that allows the Q to exist.
And that, in order to bootstrap themselves, they have to make the federation in the past.
And that, in order to bootstrap themselves, they have to make the federation in the past.
Or, if you fold in the fact that the Q are repeatedly shown to be decadent, and decaying - especially in the books?
That the Q are trying to create a people worthy of taking over for them. That, like all truly omnipotent beings, the only challenge left... is nonexistence.
That the Q are trying to create a people worthy of taking over for them. That, like all truly omnipotent beings, the only challenge left... is nonexistence.
Or, real talk?
Maybe both.
That's the kind of temporal shit you can get into here.
Humanity being product of, progenitors of, and successors to the Q.
Maybe both.
That's the kind of temporal shit you can get into here.
Humanity being product of, progenitors of, and successors to the Q.
