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Gilbert Appreciation Thread
Y'know what? I don't see enough appreciation for him and how interesting he is so I'm gonna do it myself.
Aka I gush about my favourite character in Three Houses because it's his birthday in America still but not where I live now FUCK.
Y'know what? I don't see enough appreciation for him and how interesting he is so I'm gonna do it myself.
Aka I gush about my favourite character in Three Houses because it's his birthday in America still but not where I live now FUCK.
Most people that know me know that I have a bit of a Type of character that I may like. An archetype? I'm just gonna call it a type that's like five less letters.
Anyway, I have a bit of a liking towards knights who are old. I couldn't fully tell you why that is really.
Anyway, I have a bit of a liking towards knights who are old. I couldn't fully tell you why that is really.
Maybe I just admire how far they've made it in life within a shitty war-ridden world that an FE game is usually set in. Or maybe I just like old people.
Both? Probably both.
Gilbert in this case is a favourite of mine within this Type of character in FE and hell, as a whole.
Both? Probably both.
Gilbert in this case is a favourite of mine within this Type of character in FE and hell, as a whole.
He's along with characters like Marcus from FE6/7 and I guess you could count Oswin from FE7 even though he's a bit younger really. But Hector calls him old. Ill-hearted old ma- gentleman.
Gilbert was a character I never really felt much about at first. Never cared about him.
Gilbert was a character I never really felt much about at first. Never cared about him.
Which is because my first playthrough was Golden Deer, so that explains a lot.
I just knew he's Annette's old man and people kinda hate him loads.
Lovely. A character people hate. I hope I don't sta-
*gets to post timeskip on my Blue Lions run*
hoo boy.
I just knew he's Annette's old man and people kinda hate him loads.
Lovely. A character people hate. I hope I don't sta-
*gets to post timeskip on my Blue Lions run*
hoo boy.
After getting to post timeskip on BL, he started to catch my eye more given he's, y'know, there more. You can actually use him and he plays a side role within basically all of post timeskip for the path.
Boy am I glad I kept playing Blue Lions to actually experience him.
Boy am I glad I kept playing Blue Lions to actually experience him.
Loved the Blue Lions as a whole. All of them.
Anyway... This is about Gilbert.
Gilbert Prosnirav. Or should I say, Gustave Eddie Dominic.
Yeah, he got two names and to this day I still haven't a fucking clue which one to call him. Please send help why am I making it difficult.
Anyway... This is about Gilbert.
Gilbert Prosnirav. Or should I say, Gustave Eddie Dominic.
Yeah, he got two names and to this day I still haven't a fucking clue which one to call him. Please send help why am I making it difficult.
I've sugar-coated a lot but alas I'm just writing whatever I'm thinking right now. I promise I'll like,,, talk about Gilbert now. Yeah, I'll stick with Gilbert that's how everyone knows him.
I'll admit it, I find him super interesting and that's why he's my favourite in 3H.
I'll admit it, I find him super interesting and that's why he's my favourite in 3H.
I like him even more so than the beautifully portrayed Marianne, the big sweetheart Raphael, or the dutiful funnyman Alois.
What gives about that? Why do I like a not so wholly good person over those three sweethearts?
Honestly, I think it comes down to the Type I mentioned.
What gives about that? Why do I like a not so wholly good person over those three sweethearts?
Honestly, I think it comes down to the Type I mentioned.
I enjoy the type of character he is at base. An older man who's a knight.
That alone interests me because of my interest in Marcus and Oswin, who are good people.
So same rehashed question but differently worded from one (1) tweet ago:
What's the deal with airline fo- Gilbert?
That alone interests me because of my interest in Marcus and Oswin, who are good people.
So same rehashed question but differently worded from one (1) tweet ago:
What's the deal with airline fo- Gilbert?
I enjoy how different but, somewhat similar he is to the previously mentioned two.
He's not an entirely good person, and has made shitty decisions based on the conventional idea of knighthood.
It's something I see a lot of people overlook is the idea of conventional knighthood.
He's not an entirely good person, and has made shitty decisions based on the conventional idea of knighthood.
It's something I see a lot of people overlook is the idea of conventional knighthood.
It's something that is likely pushed a lot on Faerghus.
The idea that when you're a knight, you're a knight. You must follow certain things to 'behave' like one.
Things such as believing in the religion strongly. In this case, the central Chruch of Seiros.
The idea that when you're a knight, you're a knight. You must follow certain things to 'behave' like one.
Things such as believing in the religion strongly. In this case, the central Chruch of Seiros.
All you really need to know without nitty gritty details is it basically leads knights to believe that they are knight first, human second.
It's something that even clouds the visions of Oswin and Marcus.
It's what these three, and probably more have in common.
It's something that even clouds the visions of Oswin and Marcus.
It's what these three, and probably more have in common.
The idea that they dehumanise themselves because they're a knight and they were more than likely taught/ influenced to act like one.
FE's a medieval setting, so that's probably the case.
For Gilbert, this not only is a flaw of his, but is a catalyst for what he does so wrong.
FE's a medieval setting, so that's probably the case.
For Gilbert, this not only is a flaw of his, but is a catalyst for what he does so wrong.
It clouds his vision so bad that he dismisses his family for it. And out of guilt from breaking this idea of knighthood that he's so heavily invested into, he fucks off.
He failed to protect his liege, which is a bad thing for a knight. A really really bad thing.
He failed to protect his liege, which is a bad thing for a knight. A really really bad thing.
It's why he's so downright guilty and so in deep by the time he comes onto the scene for us. Not only does he feel intense guilt initially, he's let it burn inside him.
And I love that. I love how different it is to the other two overall. He does wrong. He done fucked up.
And I love that. I love how different it is to the other two overall. He does wrong. He done fucked up.
It's his charm if you will. The fact that this conventional knighthood stuff makes him fuck up big time.
It shows how bad the mentality can affect someone.
In that, I find him really interesting. He does wrong and has to live with it. And he does that wrong too.
It shows how bad the mentality can affect someone.
In that, I find him really interesting. He does wrong and has to live with it. And he does that wrong too.
Skip to where he use him now.
His supports are centric around either chinning up and actually socialising nicely. Or being Really told something.
The former, I can appreciate a lot in supports like Hanneman and Alois. I could go on about those two alone. Love them.
His supports are centric around either chinning up and actually socialising nicely. Or being Really told something.
The former, I can appreciate a lot in supports like Hanneman and Alois. I could go on about those two alone. Love them.
As for the latter, two come to mind.
I guess you could count Byleth too. But I don't count a Mary Sue/ Gary Stu self insert simply magic'ing him better.
Personally, I only take excerpts from Byleth supports for character's sake.
Annette is the main focus here now.
I guess you could count Byleth too. But I don't count a Mary Sue/ Gary Stu self insert simply magic'ing him better.
Personally, I only take excerpts from Byleth supports for character's sake.
Annette is the main focus here now.
His supports with Annette is a shining example of just how much this conventional knighthood thing clouds his vision.
In a way, Gilbert's right in how she doesn't understand, but neither does he. The idea of knighthood is so embedded in him that he can't see that it's wrong.
In a way, Gilbert's right in how she doesn't understand, but neither does he. The idea of knighthood is so embedded in him that he can't see that it's wrong.
And he tries to make her happy too, and I like that kinda. Only thing is he just can't bring himself to go say sorry to his wife.
And well... he can't just do that simply. It's not as easy as people make it out to be. It's not a "Just Do It" thing here. It's a real human issue.
And well... he can't just do that simply. It's not as easy as people make it out to be. It's not a "Just Do It" thing here. It's a real human issue.
He can't apologise easily. It's really not as easy as 1, 2, 3.
The consequences he faces are unintended, because realistically, he likely doesn't know how to apologise to her. And/ or he doesn't have the courage to.
And this isn't me fully defending him, not at all.
The consequences he faces are unintended, because realistically, he likely doesn't know how to apologise to her. And/ or he doesn't have the courage to.
And this isn't me fully defending him, not at all.
This is me saying his actions have some raw humanity to them. It's something I can appreciate, and even relate to (of course not to the extreme he's at).
In that sense, I sort of empathise with Gilbert. And I think some of us would too.
It's human to be like this.
In that sense, I sort of empathise with Gilbert. And I think some of us would too.
It's human to be like this.
To feel so unable to apologise out of immense guilt and shame. And that's what shines so brightly to me.
He's done wrong, and that's the basics of it. But he's not fully accountable. It's the fault of the setting too.
A setting that pushes these extreme ideas of knighthood.
He's done wrong, and that's the basics of it. But he's not fully accountable. It's the fault of the setting too.
A setting that pushes these extreme ideas of knighthood.
The setting of 3H, and FE in general is at fault a bit for his actions. Because y'know, medieval.
FE really does love to show how shitty of a time medieval can be.
Anyway, enough on that psychology and time stuff. Let's lighten up a little and end off the thread with that.
FE really does love to show how shitty of a time medieval can be.
Anyway, enough on that psychology and time stuff. Let's lighten up a little and end off the thread with that.
Another thing I enjoy about Gilbert is his other supports. Especially those with the other off-house characters.
In this instance: Alois, Hanneman, Manuela, and Catherine.
I love all these supports. I watched the latter two earlier for this thread and loved them both.
In this instance: Alois, Hanneman, Manuela, and Catherine.
I love all these supports. I watched the latter two earlier for this thread and loved them both.
I love how they portray him living a little in a sense or just giving him extra things.
I like how Manuela takes it upon herself to make Gilbert happy with her singing. And she succeeds in a wholesome ending to the support. I couldn't wipe a smile off my own face at it.
I like how Manuela takes it upon herself to make Gilbert happy with her singing. And she succeeds in a wholesome ending to the support. I couldn't wipe a smile off my own face at it.
His support with Hanneman was pretty dorky snd I can appreciate that a lot. Two dorky old men who aren't the best with socialising, making friends in a dorky way.
It's pretty wholesome and I dig it. It shows Gilbert in a fun little light.
It's pretty wholesome and I dig it. It shows Gilbert in a fun little light.
I also found his talk with Catherine interesting too. How they both have secrets to keep and all that. I'm not very well versed about Catherine at the moment, but it seems interesting.
And I love the ending how it's a slight reverse of the beginning with Gilbert asking to spar.
And I love the ending how it's a slight reverse of the beginning with Gilbert asking to spar.
And with Alois, I enjoy how he opens up a little bit regarding his enjoyment for fishing. Alois' attitude certainly helps lighten Gilbert up a little in the end.
And it's nice to see him taking up a mentor role for Alois in terms of fishing. Good support, I likey.
And it's nice to see him taking up a mentor role for Alois in terms of fishing. Good support, I likey.
So overall, Gilbert's just a character I find super interesting. He's an interesting spin on the type of character.
I enjoy how serious he is, but also how he deep down still loves his family. That's shown in his A+ support with Annette, and his nice ending with her.
I enjoy how serious he is, but also how he deep down still loves his family. That's shown in his A+ support with Annette, and his nice ending with her.
Hell, I didn't even know about that ending before doing this thread. I'm glad I took it upon myself to go look at the rest of his supports and that ending.
Made me like him even more than I already do.
He's a good character with nice depth.
Made me like him even more than I already do.
He's a good character with nice depth.
I'm glad I found motivation to finish Blue Lions and truly experience him. And, even if I love that ending I never got, I don't regret S supporting him.
He's nowhere near perfect. He's done wrong. But I won't deny how interested I am by his psychology and character.
He's nowhere near perfect. He's done wrong. But I won't deny how interested I am by his psychology and character.
