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With one simple question
Whom do you expect to possess a moral compass?
One simple thread
With one simple question
Whom do you expect to possess a moral compass?
It's not a trick question
Honestly
Do you expect your children to have a moral compass?
At what age?
Do you expect an adult to have a moral compass?
Honestly
Do you expect your children to have a moral compass?
At what age?
Do you expect an adult to have a moral compass?
Note - my question above did not ask you to form a moral judgement on the actions of an individual
I asked do you expect them to have a moral compass
Not where it points to
I asked do you expect them to have a moral compass
Not where it points to
Here is an example of how being a military leader imbues the expectation
"An ethical culture plays an essential role in clarifying to the troops their moral obligation and the kind of behaviors that are unacceptable and those that are held in esteem" https://www.coursehero.com/file/14988352/Greatest-Moral-Obligation-of-a-Military-Leader/
"An ethical culture plays an essential role in clarifying to the troops their moral obligation and the kind of behaviors that are unacceptable and those that are held in esteem" https://www.coursehero.com/file/14988352/Greatest-Moral-Obligation-of-a-Military-Leader/
Or here on leadership
"Without wise leadership, a nation falls; there is safety in having many advisers." â Proverbs 11:14 (NLT) http://christopherscottblog.com/without-wise-leadership-a-nation-falls/
"Without wise leadership, a nation falls; there is safety in having many advisers." â Proverbs 11:14 (NLT) http://christopherscottblog.com/without-wise-leadership-a-nation-falls/
I am not asking where you learn your moral compass from
That could be a fascinating albeit slightly longer and divergent thread from the focus I am applying here https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7461059/Ivanka-Trump-says-got-moral-compass-father.html
That could be a fascinating albeit slightly longer and divergent thread from the focus I am applying here https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7461059/Ivanka-Trump-says-got-moral-compass-father.html
So back to our question
Do you expect an individual to have a moral compass?
Does a nation have a moral compass?
"President Wilson believed that the United States should serve as a moral compass to the rest of the world. " https://www.apstudynotes.org/us-history/topics/peace-conferences/
Do you expect an individual to have a moral compass?
Does a nation have a moral compass?
"President Wilson believed that the United States should serve as a moral compass to the rest of the world. " https://www.apstudynotes.org/us-history/topics/peace-conferences/
Does a parliament or other legislative body have a moral compass?
"This Parliament has enormous moral compass"
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2019-09-30/debates/FF17C3DA-011D-4BCC-B403-38B708A8CB43/NorthernIreland(ExecutiveFormationEtc)Act2019Section7?highlight=moral%20compass#contribution-99E96C6C-50B0-4A7D-B618-C1CD96A60BC1
"This Parliament has enormous moral compass"
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2019-09-30/debates/FF17C3DA-011D-4BCC-B403-38B708A8CB43/NorthernIreland(ExecutiveFormationEtc)Act2019Section7?highlight=moral%20compass#contribution-99E96C6C-50B0-4A7D-B618-C1CD96A60BC1
Enough about institutions or nations
Now I am going to go back and focus on an individual
But first a few occassions where public servants (e.g. politicians) talked about morality
Now I am going to go back and focus on an individual
But first a few occassions where public servants (e.g. politicians) talked about morality
"John Major yesterday promised to lead Britain back to a traditional Conservative morality based on self-reliance, decency, the family and respect for the law." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/1993/oct/09/conservatives.past
Theresa May - on a "moral duty" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48589411
Shame she & her party couldnt apply that moral duty to the victims of austerity, operation vaken or her police cuts - but guess those are justified as knowable consequences of her policy - thats a whole other thread https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1067714183519715331
Here is Parliament was able to debate the moral compass of these young people when talking about youth violence
Strange that discussing young people MP's can make a judgement about the existence of moral compasses
Strange that discussing young people MP's can make a judgement about the existence of moral compasses
Mr David Lammy
"What is unfortunately being said about the moral compass of these young people is incredibly worrying."
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2016-03-03/debates/16030337000001/GangsAndSeriousYouthViolence?highlight=moral%20compass#contribution-16030337000441
"What is unfortunately being said about the moral compass of these young people is incredibly worrying."
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2016-03-03/debates/16030337000001/GangsAndSeriousYouthViolence?highlight=moral%20compass#contribution-16030337000441
Anyway back to our main question
Do you expect an individual to have a moral compass?
Do you expect an individual to have a moral compass?
So now we turn to an interview https://m.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/637299943416004/?refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FChannel4News%2Fvideos%2F637299943416004%2F&_rdr
And the discussion transcribed
CN: âDo you think that Boris Johnson has a moral compass?â
JRM: âIâm sure he has clear view of what he wants to doâ
JRM: âIâm sure he has clear view of what he wants to doâ
The simple point to note here is Jacob could not say yes
But on that vision
Whereâs the plan ?
14/6/2016 Daily Telegraph
âJohnson and Gove, the two leading figures in the Leave campaign, have drawn up a blueprint for implementing a Brexit. Sensibly, it calls for flexibility and a period of reflectionâ
Whereâs the plan ?
14/6/2016 Daily Telegraph
âJohnson and Gove, the two leading figures in the Leave campaign, have drawn up a blueprint for implementing a Brexit. Sensibly, it calls for flexibility and a period of reflectionâ
CN: Thatâs not a moral compass
JRM: Well that depends what you mean by moral compass but I am not looking for a leader of the party and of the country who is a practicing Catholic who could alternatively be in holy orders. Thatâs not the question.
JRM: Well that depends what you mean by moral compass but I am not looking for a leader of the party and of the country who is a practicing Catholic who could alternatively be in holy orders. Thatâs not the question.
But hey I canât spell Pinocchio properly without the aid of spell check so who am I to judge
Perhaps Jacob does not know how to use Google
Perhaps a few sessions from a technology tutor could help
I am sure Boris Johnson could recommend one for Jacob
Perhaps a few sessions from a technology tutor could help
I am sure Boris Johnson could recommend one for Jacob
CN: But are you looking for someone whose mistress had to have an abortion - knowing your views on abortion where you believe it shouldnât happen, even in cases of rape and incest. Reportedly his mistress had to go and get an abortion. Are you happy with that as a man of faith?
Of course he is
He turns a profit from that customer demand https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-abortion-pills-abortion-rape-conservative-party-conference-tory-leadership-leader-a7976386.html
He turns a profit from that customer demand https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-abortion-pills-abortion-rape-conservative-party-conference-tory-leadership-leader-a7976386.html
JRM: it is not for me to judge other peopleâs private life. I wouldnât begin to do that.
CN: Iâm not asking you to judge. Are you felling comfortable?
JRM: You are actually. You are asking me to judge Boris Johnsonâs private life and I donât.
CN: Iâm not asking you to judge. Are you felling comfortable?
JRM: You are actually. You are asking me to judge Boris Johnsonâs private life and I donât.
A reminder on Boris Johnson https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1200895128975613952
JRM: People have private lives that are different from their public lives.
JRM: What I trust him to do is to deliver in the public sphere, and one of the key tenets of Christianity is not to judge. Judgment will come from a higher authority in due course
JRM: What I trust him to do is to deliver in the public sphere, and one of the key tenets of Christianity is not to judge. Judgment will come from a higher authority in due course
Why do you trust him?
Did he look you in the eyes whilst lying?
How did that pan out for Mark Francois?
Did he look you in the eyes whilst lying?
How did that pan out for Mark Francois?
Thatâs weird as Michael Gove has a clear view of how he considers catholics who have a view on the common good
Good thing he didnât say that about Sikhs, Muslims, Jews or any other faith https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1109731032625016832
Good thing he didnât say that about Sikhs, Muslims, Jews or any other faith https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1109731032625016832
For those who want to read a bit more on Jacob Rees Mogg https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1112610050827268096
A reminder of Boris Johnson and his view on Winston Churchill https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/james-obrien-demolition-of-boris-johnson/
But anyway back to the main question
When asked if a candidate for leadership of his party had a moral compass
Jacob Rees Mogg could not answer Yes
That is all you need to know
When asked if a candidate for leadership of his party had a moral compass
Jacob Rees Mogg could not answer Yes
That is all you need to know
How he evaded the question is fascinating
to quote Dodgeball -
"Remember the 5 D's of dodgeball: Dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge."
- Patches O'Houlihan.
to quote Dodgeball -
"Remember the 5 D's of dodgeball: Dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge."
- Patches O'Houlihan.
So moving away from Dodgeball and how you avoid the question
"Make no mistake about it, language is not neutral. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous and dangerous." https://pembrokevoice.ca/viewpoint/language-calibrate-nation-moral-compass/
"Make no mistake about it, language is not neutral. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous and dangerous." https://pembrokevoice.ca/viewpoint/language-calibrate-nation-moral-compass/
I am going to quote one other politician before I wrap up
Abraham Lincoln
"I should regret to see the day in which the people should cease to express intelligent, honest generous criticism upon the policy of their rulers.â https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/honest-abe-wasnt-always-quite-so-honest-180962194/#2MgAd626ze85hVGQ.99
Abraham Lincoln
"I should regret to see the day in which the people should cease to express intelligent, honest generous criticism upon the policy of their rulers.â https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/honest-abe-wasnt-always-quite-so-honest-180962194/#2MgAd626ze85hVGQ.99
And now as a wrap up here is an old thread I wrote - ironically just a few days before Jacob Rees Mogg's interview
On the record of one Boris Johnson
It is a long one and wraps up many many others with their journalism and their recounts of Boris Johnson https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1140292091702140928
On the record of one Boris Johnson
It is a long one and wraps up many many others with their journalism and their recounts of Boris Johnson https://twitter.com/PandaScottish/status/1140292091702140928
@threadreaderapp unroll please
