1/ What's embarrassing is how absolutely incapable this guy is of understanding the *biblical* definition of guilt.

He seems to think that "guilt" means "a psychological state in which you feel bad about something." https://twitter.com/MarkSandals/status/1199117958565511178

2/ That may be the world's definition, but it's not the biblical definition.

Rather, when the NT speaks about our being guilty, what it is referring to is the *objective position of man before God in which he is justly condemned for violating God's Law and stands under judgment*

3/ "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God." (Romans 3:19)

Guilty is "hupodikos," which is a compound that literally means "under judgment"

4/ The reason I say that the "sense of feeling bad psychologically" is what this guy apparently thinks biblical guilt is is because when faced with the concept of "guilt for sin," he immediately jumped to the conclusion that psychology was what was meant.

5/ He certainly didn't get it from me, since the biblical definition of being under just and righteous judgment from God is what I have been using throughout this days-long discussion with this guy and his easy believism buddies

6/ Never once have I applied the term or concept in any other way than to indicate the objective, judicial position of the lost man before God.

Yet, he automatically assumes that "feeling bad about sin" is what I meant, which really indicates *his* view of it, rather than mine

7/ Given that this is the case, this strongly suggests that @MarkSandals doesn't understand what the Gospel actually is. His easy believist understanding of guilt before God as psychological feeling is drastically at odds with biblical and historical Christianity

8/ Indeed, the whole easy believist ideological complex is modernist in form and function, originating late and resting upon the combined foundations of appeals to emotionalism and advertising marketing techniques https://mobile.twitter.com/Theo_Chilton/status/1198367252908691456

9/ Hence, it's not surprising that easy believist types assume that guilt is about personal, individual feelings (man's perspective) rather than the objective declaration of our unrighteousness (God's perspective). Easy believism is a worldly philosophy, it's not the Gospel

10/ This failure to even understand the basics of Christian concepts like faith, belief, righteousness, repentance, and guilt for sin causes me to question why this guy and his buddies think they're in any position to criticise *anyone else* for disagreeing with them.

11/ "Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God." (Heb. 6:1)

12/ Paul says in the verse above that repenting of your sins, turning from the love and desire for your sins to respond to God's offer of forgiveness, cleansing, and mercy, is literally one of the most *basic* and *foundational* things that new converts learn.

13/ Even babes in Christ learn that repentance from dead works and faith toward God are intimately coupled together and are a basic element of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Yet, these easy believists replace that with psychology and showmanship. It's a false gospel

14/ These easy believists are in no position to arrogantly presume to be able to instruct ANYONE when they can't even understand the most basic facts such as our judicial guilt toward God and that this guilt must be taken care of for us to be saved.

15/ How hard is it to understand that when Jesus said, "I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance" (Luke 5:32), that He was indicating the need for sinners not merely to "believe" in the sense of "mental assent to a proposition" that easy believists mean...

16/ ...but was *actually saying that those who are judicially unrighteous before God must turn to God for that guilt to be removed, rather than holding onto their love for their sin*?

17/ The NT is full of people who "believed" yet were lost. Simon the sorcerer, many of the Jews who believed yet rejected, the wolves from their own numbers that Paul warned the Ephesian elders about, etc. etc.

"Believe" is a word that is conditioned by its context.

18/ Simply "believing" some facts about Jesus won't save you if that belief does not entail saving biblical faith - which mere assent to mental propositions does not yield.

Biblical faith IS repentance of sin unto salvation by God's grace.

19/ Faith is, at its essence, simply being willing to take God at His word. When God says we are by nature and practice sinners condemned before Him prior to salvation, that is something we can choose to believe or not to believe.

20/ Thus, repentance is really analogous to faith because repentance entails the willingness to accept God's verdict and to yield to His sovereign decree about ourselves, and to desire Him to save and change us, rather than obstinately rejecting His decree and wanting our sin

21/ Consistently throughout, this guy and the other easy believists have utterly failed, either purposefully or through sheer ignorance, to even be able to articulate what I've been *clearly* and *consistently* describing repentance as

22/ Through this entire discussion, they have misrepresented what I've said.

Never once have I ever suggested that repentance means "stopping sinning so you can be saved" or "never sinning again even once" or that "you lose your salvation if you sin even once."

23/ These are straw men they've built because they have *never once been able to actually address a single point I've made with a clear and relevant refutation*. Not once. All they've done is misrepresent and falsely accuse me.

24/ They literally have nothing but falsehoods. They seem unable to even rearticulate what I've said to them without misconstruing it in the most smooth-brained ways possible.

25/ What makes them think they have any business discussing things that are so obviously above their pay grade? They should instead sit quietly and learn from God's Word, gaining wisdom instead of putting their ignorance on display for all to see.

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